HINCKLEY POINT: Wrong providers, wrong fuel, wrong strategy, a right mess

mesnipIt’s a case of Hinckley, nul Points. But that’s just the focus of today’s news: it’s merely a symptom of the autocratic muddle and ideological tribalism that typifies the contemporary culture of Western governance. In the end, incompetent risk assessment and fudge become horrendously expensive: that has been the headline for the UK’s energy policy for decades, and it is already costing the Germans dear. The Slog offers some balance and pleads for open minds, not closed ranks.


The News

EDF has been given the go-ahead to build Britain’s first nuclear reactor for decades. The new Hinkley Point complex will cost £37billion.

Chancellor Philip Hammond having confirmed the ‘new’ Government will stick with the project, work should start very soon. It will be handled jointly by the French and the Chinese.

The Green lobby is very upset about it.

What’s not in the News

The reactor when finished will be almost obsolete. It will use uranium as the fission material, not Thorium. Thorium is much safer, cheaper, ecologically cleaner, more available around the world and easier to mine than uranium. But EDF can get uranium from francophone territories, and as they’re the ones in charge (not us) nasty old uranium it is. This is ridiculous given that China is swimming in Thorium.

As predicted here four years ago, the Third World and emerging nations especially are moving rapidly towards Thorium as a fuel. Even French scientists at Grenoble agree that sticking with fast-breed uranium will mean “China, India and Japan will overtake France as current leaders in the field of nuclear generation”. And we are tied to EDF.

The issue is not as simple as Nuclear v renewable Green power. Germany’s switch away from nuclear has been a political and economic disaster for Angela Merkel. In straight-line Teutonic style, Rheinisch-Westfälisches Elektrizitätswerk (RWE) was forced by the government to shut down its profitable nuclear reactors and invest in wind and solar power. The RWE utility giant now (according to analysts) stands a 46% chance of going bankrupt by 2018.

At the turn of the century, Germany’s energy output was  30% nuclear. The share is now around 16%, and the target there is to have closed every nuclear reactor by 2022. Behing the scenes, coal as a fuel has been revived: so Germany’s CO2 emissions have been  rising by 28 million tons every year since the decision to dump nuclear.

In fact, a staggering 44% of all the country’s generation is now coal dependent. Not very Green you might say, but it doesn’t have to be that way. Clean Coal technology (CCT) has made enormous strides over the last ten years. Britain (or to be exact, Scotland) was a leader in this field, producing the best CCT results in the world back in 2008.

Sadly, the Environment Minister at that time was Ed Miliband. When the Scottish researchers asked for Government backing, he turned them down….and went balls-out into wind turbines on and offshore – unsightly, expensive to maintain, expensive generation costs, and weather dependent. The Dutch (who have more experience of wind power than anyone) offered to shower Miliband with the evidence against wind power. He rebuffed them.

CCT, if we’d persevered with it, would’ve enabled the UK to produce cheap and clean electricity in abundance. It would have made Hinckley Point irrelevant. It would’ve saved £37 billion. It would have made destitute SPA victimsa nightmare that never happened.

I have read so many learned and contradictory papers over the years about whether CO2 in the atmosphere is an issue or not. I’m not going to get into it here, because it simply fills the comment thread with deranged egomaniacs screaming at each other. What I can say, however – because the evidence behind this is overwhelming – is that wind, solar, wave and hydro-electric power are not as yet effective enough to replace nuclear as a form of generation in the context of British geography and prevailing weather.

As someone with both Green and conservational instincts, right now I would develop CCT with huge Government investment in both research and reopening coal mines but also invest far more in the development of solar energy.

Say “solar energy” to most people, and they sniff while burbling on about solar panels. What I mean by the term is harnessing the power of the Sun as an energy generator. It is a young to middle-aged star blasting out more wasted energy per minute than the entire energy output of Planet Earth’s most dangerous species.

It’s a longer term bet, but it simply has to be the future. Ten years ago Niki Walker wrote Harnessing the power of the Sun, a first attempt at showing how broad the opportunity is. Collecting solar fusion

  • Could provide a large-scale energy source with basic fuels which are abundant and available everywhere;
  • Have a very low global impact on the environment – no CO2 greenhouse gas emissions;
  • Not require radioactive fuels for Day-to-day-operation of a fusion power station;
  • Banish the possibility of “meltdown” or “runaway reactions”;
  • Leave no radioactive waste to create a burden on future generations.

The field is developing all the time, and the investment potential is amazing. For both Government and Greens, there is a need to move away from the old technologies and dreams about fart recycling. The thing to do is get on with it.

What I wouldn’t do is get a Sino-French joint venture to build us an old fashioned Uranium reactor. And I certainly wouldn’t employ a bunch of high-handed gangsters like EDF to manage it.

Why is our energy policy an expensive mess?

It’s yet another case of rounding up the usual suspects.

Neoliberal economics wanting the quick ROI rather than the longterm investment

Tribal generalists like Ed Miliband stuck in the past and refusing to open their minds to a better future

The triumph of dull process over creative risk

Ideology generating heated debate but nothing in the way of a solution

Britain selling off the silverware to the point where our energy is literally under the control of a truculent French government and a nuclear superpower with an appalling safety record

Price to government and profit for private suppliers coming before safety and sustainability.

Hinckley Point is just a symptom of a deeper cultural malaise – in the West in general, and especially in Britain.

Nothing will change this until we change the political and constitutional rules as outlined here at the Four Reform priorities page.

Yesterday at The Slog: bankers too rich to jail, consumers too poor to shop

43 thoughts on “HINCKLEY POINT: Wrong providers, wrong fuel, wrong strategy, a right mess

  1. ‘and went balls-out into wind turbines on and offshore – unsightly, expensive to maintain, expensive generation costs’
    And who pays? We do.
    And who gets rich? They do.
    Says it all really.

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  2. Why is our energy policy an expensive mess?

    At its heart, the reason is that there is an overriding fear of what uncontrolled access to very cheap energy will lead to in public behaviour. It is possible for the authorities to think “Gosh, just imagine the beneficial things that people would be able to do if the cost of energy input was no longer an issue of much importance”, but unfortunately they are programmed to think instead “Gosh, just imagine the ridiculous/harmful nonsenses that Joe Public will get up to if he is not restricted in his access to sources of stored energy”.

    Their view is that damage to society is far more likely to result from a situation of cheap, freely-available energy than it is from one where State authority is able to control access to usable energy by price and availability.

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  3. Perhaps a little investigation is needed here….Thorium is not a fissile material it requires pre-processing with U-233. Given that India/China are proceeding with Thorium reactors there is a need for Uranium based reactors to supply the neutron product, hence Hinckley Point. Also there is the possibility that Thorium can be combined with Plutonium to make a fissile mix. Given that there is a current supply of plutonium by-product from U based reactors then it may be sensible to export this product back to China from Hinckley Point. All in all, perhaps we may totally not understand the finer detail of the decision to fuel Hinckley with Uranium and not Thorium.
    Discuss, don’t jump down my throat, offer salient points

    Thanks for my morning read John.

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  4. Electrical power is a core necessity in a modern industrial Sovereign nation. Privatisation of our utilities is the root cause of the present mess in our future planning for electrical power generation supply.
    Private companies seek a quick return on investment and abhor risk. Under a year is the usual time for return of investment in the FIRE business sectors,( Finance, Insurance and Real Estate).
    That is the reason the City of London refused to invest in the Power Generation sector, too many unknowns, too many risks, such as eventual de-commissioning costs and possible accident risks.
    The Chinese have offered to finance Hinckley Point plus massive inner city property development as in the Salford area.
    The Chinese have taken over the powers of the Treasury and the Bank of England, which is to invest in the infrastructure of the UK.
    A Sovereign nation can create money via its Central Bank at the touch of a computer button. This is evident from the £385 billion created for the private banking system by Quantitative Easing.
    The Treasury in conjunction with the Bank of England can create money to invest in infrastructure and revive productive industry, to give full employment.
    It chooses not to do so because of the fraudelent money system.
    We have a system where the Treasury issues bonds, which are purchased by the private banks and institutions, The private sector then receives interest on these bonds. The interest is a totally unnecesary extra burden on the taxpayer, which can be by-passed by issuing Treasury credit directly to infrastructure and productive industry sectors at zero interest.
    This investment by the Treasury will be eventually cancelled by the returns created by the productive wealth creating capacity of infrastructure, industry and employment.

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  5. Flying saucah nazi boffin discovers discovers cheap energy shockah!

    This man had to work for the third Reich and discovered centripetal energy’s uses.


  6. Some good comments have been made on this issue. There are other fundamental aspects which contribute to the UK’s failure to control its own destiny.

    5 out of 6 of our leading power companies are Foreign Owned – We are on course for a supply crisis.
    12 out of 19 leading water supply companies are foreign investor owned based in tax havens – no tax there then
    Illegal tax dodge enabled Spainish firms to buy major airports. large UK bank and some London tube lines.
    London Buses and our trains made by German and Spanish companies.
    Major Manufacturers some now foreign owned which now operate in eastern europe and beyond having received grants and loans to do so from the EU.
    The latest ARM – to Japanese company as was Pilkington.

    Government response to ARM bid – ” it is a great vote of confidence in Britain” What kind of clown is employed within government circles to be given licence to make such a statement which illustrates a complete lack of understanding of the manufacturing industry in this country. PM T May – promised much tougher scrutiny of foreign takeover bids for UK companies – better kick off the crocs dear and get yours skates on before its all gone.

    Off shore – almost all wind farms owned by foreign companies and we pay in some instances 200 per cent subsidy for the power.

    This tally is an illustration of the ineptitude of our Parliamentry system which appoints members to jobs and function about which they not got a SCOOBY and whose lack of vision and analytical thought is at the root cause of our decline since professional politics was introduced after our membership was engineered at great cost to the European Community by the immovable clown Edward Heath.

    Town Halls – Local Authorities – Public Services have had licence to set salaries and pensions well beyond that which is acceptable. When the S hits the Fan everybody scuttles under the floorboards – nobody gets sacked for mismanagement
    and they are moved to safer ground. Whistleblowersb are silenced under no disclosure clauses. I would give every whistleblower legal protection and a financial reward geared to the savings made by the disclosure.

    I do not believe as JW does that bringing matters down to local level will resolve matters until we have inm place responsible persons who put taxpayers and the tax taken from them at the forefront of their duties. Its a clean out from top to bottom – any party which undergoes radical change and is brutal with its clean up would have massive national support.

    I hear today that the Supreme Court threw out the SNP family Bill – best news of the day – they are a slimey lot – sorry to diversify but a snifter tonight.

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  7. In light of Fukishima, I hope they build high sea walls around the new facility because:”On 30 January 1607 around noon, the coasts of Bristol Channel suffered from unexpectedly high floodings that broke the coastal defences in several places. Low-lying places in Devon, Somerset, Gloucestershire, and South Wales were flooded. The devastation was particularly severe on the Welsh side, extending from Laugharne in Carmarthenshire to above Chepstow in Monmouthshire. Cardiff was the most badly affected town, with the foundations of St Mary’s Church destroyed.[1]

    Floods resulted in the drowning of an estimated 2,000 or more people, with houses and villages swept away, an estimated 200 square miles (51,800 ha) of farmland inundated and livestock destroyed,[2] wrecking the local economy along the coasts of the Bristol Channel and Severn Estuary.

    The coasts of Devon and the Somerset Levels as far inland as Glastonbury Tor, 14 miles (23 km) from the coast, were also affected. The sea wall at Burnham-on-Sea gave way,[3] and the water flowed over the low lying levels and moors. Thirty villages in Somerset were affected, including Brean which was “swallowed up” and where seven out of the nine houses were destroyed with 26 of the inhabitants dying. For ten days the Church of All Saints at Kingston Seymour, near Weston-super-Mare, was filled with water to a depth of 5 feet (1.5 m). A chiselled mark remains showing that the maximum height of the water was 7.74 metres above sea level.[4][5]………..

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  8. Well in the process of committing climate heresy, the UK has lots of coal, oil (fracked or drilled) and gas and there is no reason it cannot use them apart from PC stupidity. I realise the UK must be seen to do our bit to reduce carbon emissions (or be criticised in the Guardian), but the total closure of the UK ecomomy would reduce global temperature by around 0.0001 degrees – or some other non-measurable fraction – by 2100 or whatever date you care to choose (research the numbers). Nuclear power is expensive and high risk (ie low risk for 50 years, then suddenly and randomly fatal; low cost for 50 years, then eye wateringly expensive). But we must keep with the faith (why???). Logic lost its way a long time ago. The UK energy fiasco has been 20 years in the making. PC BS in overdrive. Idiots in charge. Rant over. We need a lot of new gas power stations very quickly. Owned by the UK and operated in its interests. Strategic politics is not very complicated. Civilisation ceases about 48 hours after the lights go off. You want your electricty controlled by the French and Chinese? Go pray to Gaia.

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  9. With interest rates as low as they are why on earth are we not borrowing (or printing) this money to build Hinckley ourselves.
    Why the Government fixation with Wonga style infrastructure projects?

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  10. Anyone notice how the Chinese are quietly infiltrating across the globe, buying up national infrastructure?

    There’s a giant Agri-business club whose members are dominated by Monsanto, Dow, Dupont, Bayer, Syngenta and BASF, which control nearly 70 % of the global seed market, not to mention chemicals. Bayer has been trying for months to buy Monsanto, Dow and Dupont are in talks to merge, and now Syngenta (itself a merger of Novartis and Astra Zeneca) is in buyout talks with ChemChina (China National Chemical, a state-owned enterprise, offering to buy the Swiss agrochemical company for $43 billion. ChemChina is an amalgam of chemical, oil processing, agrochemicals and tire and rubber Chinese firms that are largely in government hands.

    To my knowledge, no government anywhere is opposing the pernicious relationship between seeds and chemicals being orchestrated by mega companies with no interest at all in the well-being of either the planet or its inhabitants. Of course not, because each entity ‘lubricates’ the other. Exactly the same principles are at work in the energy industry. Despite the environmental movement’s heydays in the 70s, we’ve just been going down, down, down ever since, whilst we and the planet are slowly being poisoned.

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  11. I’ll try half-and-half…

    There have been several comments discussing the fact that Britain can print its own money. It was also mentioned that interest has to be paid to the private lenders (Central banks in this case). So why is it that Britain can’t just print the dosh to pay for Hinkley Point in the way the USA prints money to pay for its armed forces?

    The issue here is that the government has a deficit well over 7% already, and printing more money will only mean having to borrow more to pay the interest on those loans. Plus, there are gilts and other forms of debt that need rolling over this year, trying to find enough takers isn’t going to be that easy, even for a ‘top’ nation like Britain which until recently had AAA from several agencies.

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  12. Still no-go.

    Try #5

    Okay, there’s something WordPress doesn’t like here…

    And now to attempt to post the second half of my comment that I couldn’t publish in its entirety:

    Thus the only direction for Britain is to wheedle and coax outside investment because the government is effectively out of dosh.

    It’s not the fact that the government needs to do this, it’s the fact that Britain is still seen as having an effective economy at all.

    As to Germany’s decision to rid itself of nucle*r power stations, please remember that at current levels of output, Fukush*ma will have p*lluted all the world’s oce*ns by the end of the next c*ntury. If not before.

    Sorry about the asterisks, the WordPress bots flagged a word in my comment that they didn’t like… and wouldn’t publish it.

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  13. Nope, WordPress bots really don’t like my last paragraph, and won’t publish it. You’ll have to guess the rest, which has to do with a certain power station that is polluting the Pacific Ocean. And hasn’t stopped yet. And we want to build more of the damn things? I mean, do we really have a death wish?

    As to the censorship, it’s something to do with freedom of speech in the USA. TTIP is coming to a town near you soon, expect your comments to be vetted by your own personal Gauleiter.

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  14. There! That wasn’t too hard, was it? Just a little tweaking… over to you, guys, let’s hear what you have to say (and I trust your comments won’t be censored).

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  15. @Gemma
    I used go get it alot but learned to express concepts in more unusual ways, fools the censors and probably GCHQ at the same time. That 7% deficit you mention is way too high in a zero growth world and if not tackled the debt is going to keep ballooning. Osborne has since thrown his economic plan away as a failure.

    China is being very clever, if you embed yourself in other nation in such a way what happens if the relations already poor deteriorate further between the US and China. I am actually surprised the US has not kicked up a fuss over this because China would have a claim to station troops at Hinckley point to defend its investment. Then seeing as China is a big pal of Russia maybe Putin will come and visit as invited guests. The world is becoming so bizzare if only for the fact the US is appearing to be the odd one out … like nobody’s friend no more.

    @Jeremey Stocks
    Clean burning coal was around in the 80’s but dear old Thatcher witrh her spat with the miners sold it off because she wanted the mines closed down to break Scargill and the unions. Very short sighted and think it was the dutch who bought it up.

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  16. Mark Deacon

    The British government has had quite enough time to sort itself out, deficit wise. All it did by way of dealing with the problem was to print money and tell everybody that because they have their own sovreign currency, it was okay to do so.

    Now we’re beginning to see the pigeons coming home to roost.

    What happens if the Bank of England raises rates – or worse still, the markets force rates higher by some means? That’s when we’ll hear pips squeaking in Number 11. The pound is forced down to $0,25 and the problems really begin to bite back.

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  17. Our energy policy as you say , is a total fiasco.Half the country sits on coal that we are not allowed to use , we ditched clean coal burn and carbon capture technology ,offshore turbines quietly rusting away cos they weren’t coated properly and you can completely cover the whole frickin country in solar panels or turbines and they still wouldn’t generate any where near enough power. In the absence of some last minute invention that saves the day , I’m afraid it has to be nuclear but why the option chosen defeats logic.


  18. Gemma, re. the TTIP – the outlook doesn’t look quite so rosy as it once did (before its existence was spread in the press). During the primaries, Trump repeatedly criticized free trade agreements, including NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, saying they are “an attack on America’s business” and vowed to withdraw the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and also aim to renegotiate trade deals such as NAFTA. Hillary, once a reticent supporter, recently campaigning in Cincinnati, called for the implementation of a trade prosecutor. She made a speech taking aim at globalization and multi-national trade deals such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Yesterday, it was announced that even la Pelosi came out agin it.

    So, unless the winner of the forthcoming election totally reneges on these “declarations of intent” (which wouldn’t be a first), the TTIP looks likely to fail. Having said that, I’m sure it will resurrect itself in a new form ………

    As for the Nippon NP disaster, it’s hard over here to elicit any concern about the potentially contaminated Pacific fish, especially Alaskan salmon, either from residents/consumers or major stores selling the stuff. There’s a total press blackout on the subject, leading one to think hardly anyone gives a flying f*** if masses of people are being slowly irradiated, when the most important consideration in the equation is export figures – the United States is the sixth-largest supplier of fish and seafood products to the world market, behind China, Norway, Thailand, India, and the European Union. (which poaches it both from African and British waters). Salmon represents over 53% of Alaska’s total exports. So when you add in all the related jobs that depend on the industry, peoples’ gradual ill-health comes a poor second.
    This is a good source of info re nuclear: Fairewinds Energy Education <contact@fairewinds.org

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  19. Whither graphene? I thought we’d have been thrown super-batteries as a bone by now. Power to the people not on surprise.


  20. A Govt fiscal deficit is a requirement for the expansion of an economy.It means that investment is taking place.
    Unfortunately the majority of investment in Western economies has been in the Finance,Insurance and Property sectors. It is estimated that 92% of investment is in this sector, which consists of money going round in a casino circle.
    The real wealth creating sectors are the productive industries of agriculture,manufacturing , engineering etc. This sector creates wealth and jobs and is severely underfunded.
    The Govt has ceded its ability to inject fiscal stimulation into the economy to the private banking system,
    The private banking system is not interested in long term investment or the associated risks and the Central Banks are complicit in this charade.
    We have seen the effects of massive Quantitative Easing in UK, ECB, US Fed and Japan. The money went to the private banking sector and created stock market bubbles and property bubbles.
    Quantitative Easing has been a massive failure everywhere and this money never reached the Real Economy to stimulate production, to create real wealth and jobs.
    Politicians biggest failure is to understand Economics and the operations of the Money System.
    It would appear that Treasury officials are not willing to enlighten them for some apparent reason. But I note that the majority of ex-Chancellors find sinecures as Directors of City Banks on exiting politics.The list is long Norman Lamont,Dominic Lawson, Alistair Darling. John Major, et al.

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  21. When I went to bed last night I thought to myself that I should own up to my naughty words on WordPress.
    So here goes –
    Sorry everyone for criticizing WordPress for my spelling mistakes. When I mix my gins and my hormone tablets things sttart to
    get awry and all I can think ofis my failing libido. I was horribly bubble punctured when the Waspi calendar man said that I was too late to go on next years Waspi calendar.
    Oh well happy days. Thank god its friday. Maybe a nice man will wink at me in the library at lunchtime. I am wearing my I am free t shirt.

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  22. Mr.Ward is 100% correct about the stupidity of this project.

    A few more facts which are never heard….

    The cancer rate in this country stands at approximately 50%. This is thousands of times higher than the ‘natural’ level of cancer caused by normal backround radiation.

    All of the ‘politicians’ involved in rubber-stamping this appauling, crooked deal will recieve big fat bribes when they leave office.

    There are dozens of childhood leukemia clusters all over the country caused by the victims ingesting food, water and air which has been contaminated with radioactive isotopes from the nukiller ‘industry’.

    It is one of the least efficient, most expensive and most dangerous ways to generate power, requiring billions of tax payers money to subsidise the industry.

    Nuclear waste remains lethal to human life for hundreds of thousands of years, during which time the waste is still being produced, requiring more and more space to store it.

    There have been several nuclear accidents, some were fires and some were occasions when reactors went out of control and had to be ‘vented’ into the air and the ocean. [see- Cancer rate above.] All of these were censored under the guise of National Security. This is why the Irish Sea is the most radioactive waterway on earth.

    The new Hinkley death trap is a type of reactor that has never been tried before.. Nobody knows what will happen when it is ‘fired up’ for the first time.

    It is a statistical certainty that, sooner or later, we will have a nuclear disaster on the same scale as chernobyl of Fukushima. This will make vast areas of the country un-inhabitable for millions of years.

    Imagine the vast scale of the opportunities involved in switching from nuclear power to the model suggested in the original article by Mr. Ward, Switching to an evironmentaly and economicly sustainanable model of mixed power generation in the interim, such as CCT and other technologies, with an eventual aim of perfecting solar power technology in the long term.

    Just think of the limitless opportunities these industries and all the ancillary, associated industries would create. It would be on the scale of the industial revolution.

    A fraction of the tax payers pounds used to subsidise the nuclear industry would be more than enough to achieve these goals.

    Censorship around this subject is so rigorous that i suspect this post aint gonna make it.


  23. Thorium all the way. No nuclear bomb potential means it is ignored. Coal fired plants generate more radiation than nuclear plants. Book by Robert Zubrin, PhD nuclear physicist with 9 patents: Merchants of Despair, which looks at nuclear power, both fusion & fission, as well as the Malthusian philosophy of our world controllers.

    cfact is a warming/climate sceptic site.

    John Doran.


  24. There were no deaths from nuclear radiation. The deaths were caused by the Tsunami, & the govt panic moving of thousands of people. Fukushima was proof of how safe nuclear power is. The amount of radiation spilled into the ocean was trivial. Zubrin’s book is well worth a read.

    Paraphrase: “We need to tear down the industrial nations, meat eating, & use of refrigerators. ” Maurice Strong, mover & shaker behind the UN IPCC, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. John Kerry was parroting this nonsense recently.
    & click on Quotes.
    A Malthusian depopulation agenda is behind the warming/climate scam.


  25. G. Edward Griffin’s book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, on the US Fed, shows how the climate scam ties in with the unholy alliance between politicians & Banksters at the heart of the worlds’ problems: fractional reserve banking.
    Wars are funded without taxes being raised by printing of fiat money, while the invisible tax of inflation robs people of the value of their work, savings & investments.
    Since the Fed inception 1913 the $ value is down to now about 4 cents. Only those with insider knowledge can keep ahead.
    The chapter summaries can be read in about one hour. Well worth it.

    On the CO2, Carbon Dioxide, thing, my understanding is that above 400 ppm/v, parts per million by volume, where we are now, CO2 functions purely as plant food, ie the base of the food chain. It no longer has any effect as a greenhouse gas. Below these concentrations, water, H2O, either as invisible vapour, or as visible clouds, accouts for 95% of the greenhouse effect, with CO2 being about 4%. The man-made fraction is approx 4% of this 4%, ie negligible. Carbon capture & storage is the purest nonsense. There are some scientists who claim there is no greenhouse effect at all, ie the science is most definitely NOT settled, no matter what Gore bellows, but I follow Dr. Tim Ball. drtimballDOTcom.

    Matt Ridley (rationaloptimistDOTcom):

    John Doran.


  26. Alexei

    The protests against TTIP have been so virulent that any sensible politician will stand against it. But there is another that you may not know about called CETA, which is the Canadian version. With American corporations having a Canadian subsidiary… CETA is the treaty that’s not in the news.

    jdseanjd “There were no deaths from nuclear radiation. The deaths were caused by the Tsunami, & the govt panic moving of thousands of people. Fukushima was proof of how safe nuclear power is.”

    That’s only because of the blackout in the Mainstream news. If that is your level of proof, I suggest you get down the pub quick, like, and down a few with others who enjoy nattering about the headlines. The one’s that they’re allowed to read… WordPress censored the word Fukushima because it is a problem – because if it was proven that Fukushima was safe, they’d be trumpeting it across the very headlines that aren’t there.

    A General Note When a woman complains of a lack of libido, you know it’s a man pretending to be a woman. They’re all the same, they’re like corporations: they want to believe it’s the truth – but couldn’t be more wrong. Call it deluded. Because I do.

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  27. Much as I dislike quoting from Wikipedia it can save much cut and pasting. All British reactors are located near the coast because of the requirement for cooling waters. Tsunamis are a fact of life. They do occur, though thankfully infrequently in the UK.
    I would like to know just how much this risk has been factored into the proposed design of Hinkley 3. I know that seismic hazard was considered during the initial geotechnical investigation around 25 years ago but I do not recall tsunamis being split out as a separate discrete risk. I wonder just how many levels of redundancy are in the present design and just how many potential scenarios have been factored in? Additionally what risk is posed by existing reactors both active and decommissioned?
    Time for a major public debate!


  28. What about the world wide commitment to ITER fusion reactor? Thorium is a non-starter, ‘cos it is an alternative route to fissile material. Pity the time scale for ITER is longer than all politicos and most of us. In the meantime, gas is the only game in town and the plants can be written off over 7 years;


  29. Now I have to find it a little difficult to imagine a group of men who cannot discern between the real me and my troll.

    Three people – JDSeanJD, cocksniffer2* and cocksniffingtogetherness* liked my Troll’s posting about his inability to get it up**

    *If ever there was an unintelligent name, these rank at the top!

    **JW you cannot ban me for publishing names that you yourself have moderated the comments from. I know they are naughty words, and uttered by a woman are the stuff of instant banning by a male of the species. When men do this, it’s considered normal behaviour and women have to grow up and accept such infantile behaviour. Well, women have to grow up, don’t they? Because the likes of cocksniffer2 certainly won’t.


  30. Gemma, Alexie et al

    Pls send page captures of this cocksniffing duo: they do not register on either of my live browsers, and they are not to be found anywhere in my site comments log.

    We may be looking at a new generation of stealth-bomber trolls here.

    And can everyone FFS stop seeing me as some kind of 24/7 censor. I do have a life, unbelievable as it sometimes seems.


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  31. EDF do not even know what they will be building.. many clever words cover the fact that no similar nuclear plant, to the one they are suggesting they may build, is working anywhere in the world.. i think the Finnish version is years behind schedule and billions over budget.. this is another ‘white elephant’ like trident.. we are made to borrow money so that the banks can make money.. if it goes on very expensive white elephants does not seem to matter one jot. In years to come its someone else’s problem… they are carpet baggers who have sold off everything they can and now we have to borrow more, no matter what.. .. friends we live in the madhouse of debt.. and it all has to get flushed down the toilet..


  32. JW – I can’t speak for your records of comments, but Cocksniffer has been liking stuff.

    It’s just such a daft moniker. There was an Elton Crudearse a while ago, who posted something idiotic on my own blog. Something to the effect that he didn’t understand it.

    No surprises there, then!


  33. (jdseanjd -how safe nuclear power is …. the amount of radiation spilled into the ocean was trivial)
    -surprised you are saying this, sounds like the entire Northern Pacific food-chain has died since Fukishima.


  34. I repeat (this time in the hope of a reply) I cannot SEE this sniffing perv, so there’s as yet nothing I can do.


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