Peer who wants the retired to work for their pensions is a Sir Humphrey retired on £120k+ a year

This obviously very inspiring personality to the left here is Lord Bichard. He is a genuine, fully paid-up Sir Humphrey –  a career mandarin. Bichard was a permanent secretary in Whitehall, until his retirement at the age of 53 in 2001. His entire career has been spent in local Government and Whitehall as a civil servant, and then among the fat-cat quangoistas. He is one of the lucky recipients of a scam whereby circa 16,000 of his ilk had their pension entitlement doubled….but nobody was told, and thus there is no budget to fund it. Lord Bichard’s index-linked pension is in excess of £120,000 per annum. Last night, this man told the BBC that retired people should be encouraged to do community work….or face losing some of their pension.

While the official government estimate of public sector pension liabilities is £530 billion, an estimate using more realistic assumptions than the government would be £1,025 billion. This sum is over 80 per cent of GDP and over twice the size of the official national debt. These commitments must be honoured by government, and thus pension liabilities should be regarded in the same way as the official national debt. What’s more, each year the Government makes £41 billion of new pension commitments. These are funded by you and me at twice the rate required for employers in the private sector.

The figures for Mandarin pension liabilities (about which I’ve blogged endlessly – see link above from 2010) are deliberately understated, because by ‘government’ in this case, what we mean is Sir Humphreys . There are really only five lumps of income, spend, and liability that matter when it comes to sorting out Britain’s problems: our trade balance, civil service waste & overmanning, the welfare system, 2008 bank bailouts, and public sector pensions applied to local government and Whitehall civil servants.

Now along comes Lord Bichard with this to say from the comfort of his State-feathered nest:

“Imaginative ideas are needed to meet the cost of an ageing society. It is quite possible, for example, to envisage a world where civil society is making a greater contribution to the care of the very old, and older people who are not very old could be making a useful contribution to civil society in that respect, if they were given some incentive or some recognition for doing so. We are now prepared to say to people who are not looking for work, if you don’t look for work you don’t get benefits, so if you are old and you are not contributing in some way or another maybe there is some penalty attached to that. Are we using all of the incentives at our disposal to encourage older people not just to be a negative burden on the state but actually be a positive part of society?”

I have myself encountered young people (and comment threaders at The Slog) who would support this hypocritical and muddled view of the retired. And like some kind of robotically covetous leveller, Bichard goes on to point out that “the transfer of wealth in this country from the young to the old is one of the highest in Europe”.

Bichard’s ‘imaginative ideas’ represent some of the worst apples=pears analyses I’ve encountered in a long time.

For starters, wealth is primarily concerned with assets, not income. Old people have had sixty years to build them up, young people ten. And it isn’t a transfer of wealth at all: it’s a simple reflection of the 1946-48 baby boom coming through to retirement.

No Lord Bichard, the stats say it all: the real transfer of wealth in this country has been from the middle class wealth producers to the elite: from the Squeezed Middle to the bankers and senior civil servants who between them (a) account for 64% of all Britain’s national debt liabilities and (b) have screwed up everything they were given to do.

Next, look at his Birtesque comparison of people without work (thanks largely to government overspends, bank losses, a daft economic balance and neocon drivel) with the retired. Here I am aged 64 – declaring an interest – with a 100% self-funded private pension. In the last twelve years I have seen this drawn-down, market-exposed pot and a small capital sum saved over the years (1) reduce by 60% thanks to QE (2) lose 90% of its income thanks to Zirp (3) have the drawn-down income capped by the DSS and (4) offer the lowest annuity rates in living memory.

Most older people have paid taxes all their lives on income, taxes on their pension savings, and now pay taxes on their pension income. I become entitled to the State pension next February – and that too will be taxed at the rate applicable when one adds my private pension.

Lord Bichard is 100% cushioned from the four factors squeezing me, and millions like me. But he can’t resist poking a fat functionary’s head over the parapet to tell the peasants it’s time to work harder…otherwise we might have to throw you on the fire.

This is Lord Bichard getting over-excited about something.

And let’s face it, his noble Peerness has had a rollercoaster of a life with some stunning judgements to his name.

While serving as the ghastly David Blunkett’s PermSec, for example, he at one point intervened personally  to ensure that details of an affair that Blunkett was conducting with his Private Secretary should not become public. Nothing like a bit of open Government, eh?

He has consistently voted in the Lords for greater EU integration.

In 1990, he was appointed CEO of the Benefits Agency with a brief to ‘deliver an active modern social security service, which encourages and enables independence and aims to pay the right money at the right time’. It didn’t do any of these things, and in 2001 it was folded into the Job Centres.

From 1995 to 2001 he ran the merged Education & Employment departments, presiding over an appalling record of dumbed-down standards and risible employee training – plus, of course, a spurt in the numbers of pinstripes he employed. On his watch, the Learning & Skills Council quango was born and, sadly, allowed to live. It was thrown on the 2011 bonfire, and all its functions transferred to local government – along with all the pen-pushers who worked there.

After his retirement on full pension aged 53 in September 2001, Bichard was appointed Chairman of The Design Council. Another nice little Quango-stipend, but why? Apart from designing things that didn’t work, WTF has he ever had to do with Design in this country?

In his spare time, he carried on ensuring that the interests and emoluments of his Class would be protected: he remained a vice-President of the Local Government Association, and a Director of the Institute of Government. (This latter is basically a manual for senior Mandarins wishing to learn how to more fully manipulate their Ministers, and hide things from the public.)

A man who, all his life – from age five into free education and thence on to University with a free grant and then 30 years in the Useless Brigade with a free pension followed by quango-troughing – had everything at the expense of the taxpayer, now wants to tell the rest of us that we get far too many freebies, and nothing is for nothing any more. “Just be sure to close the gate after me” and all that.

There is, when you think about it, an obvious reason why the Lord Bichards and Bob Diamonds of this world are responsible for two-thirds of the debt liability run up by Britain since 1990: they share exactly the same brand of arrogant insouciance, within which it’s not just important that they come first: everyone else must come equal last.

One could fit a brass neck on a rampaging rhinoceros, and get more sensitivity than these people emit. For myself, I think Lord Bichard should take some of his own medicine. And the social contribution I recommend for this very lucky, unproductive man is for him to retrain as a plumber (thanks to his education ideas, you can never find one anyway) and then use his new skills to go to the homes of struggling pensioners….there to stick his head down the lavatory, while the occupant flushes the chain.

 

 

155 thoughts on “Peer who wants the retired to work for their pensions is a Sir Humphrey retired on £120k+ a year

  1. Good Morning John. The Public Sector Pension burden is in excess of £1.4 Trillion. I’ll look up some facts and figures and email them to you this week.

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  2. Excellent but wholly unsurprising. The real question is: “What the hell can we, as taxpayers, do about it?”

    Our corrupt and jobs-for-the-boys governmental system yields no different a result than what has gone in Greece, does it?

    Forget Arab Springs, how’s about starting the:
    British
    Opposition to the
    Legalised
    Looting
    Of this
    Country’s
    Kitty and
    Savings

    or BOLLOCKS for short?

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  3. I think it’s good that these people are given the oxygen of publicity to air their warped view of things, the more people hear about these twats the more they are going to turn against them. The ‘grey vote’ is a very powerful one probably enough to put one party in power all on it’s own, and as I keep saying, if UKIP does get somewhere, they are not subject to Whitehall’s leverage, they could turf the lot of them out with impunity.

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  4. “Apart from designing things that didn’t work, WTF has he ever had to do with Design in this country?”

    JW, Don’t forget that as soon as Michael Bichard ‘Retired’ on full pension in Sept 2001 he became ‘Fully Employed’ again as Rector of the University of the Arts London from Sept 2001 until August 2008, as well as being Chairman of the Arts Council. I would have to observe that I really don’t think much comprehension of Art or Design rubbed off on him whilst in command of a very creative Art College environment, during his tenure !

    Please can we also add ‘Moonlighting’ for the Soham Enquiry from January to June 2004 whilst STILL in Full Time Employment as Rector of the University of the Arts ?……..I assume that he must have invoiced a bob or two for running writing that report?

    He always was such a busy chap, and yet almost invisable…somewhere between a shadowy figure and ‘something of the night !’

    ….One last point is that if, as a retired Lecturer, I was ever invited back to any Uni in the UK to do a few days guest teaching, I have to report it to Teachers Pensions, so that they can take deductions in the light of my additional income…………I wonder if that rule also works for the ‘Great and the Good’ ?

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  6. There really needs to be some sort of cap on civil service pensions, it makes you sick. Talking of sick, my nhs pension of ooh £4000 when I get to 60 will be on the chopping block before that bastard has a penny taken off his.
    It is monstrous.

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  7. People like this should be hanged from the balconies of their ivory towers as a warning to those who follow them.

    While a nation requires government, such a government should be run for the benefit of the nation – not for the personal aggrandisement of those in whom the nation has placed their collective trust.

    There is a storm coming in this land and I think the elite believed that they can hide behind the police and the army if things go udders-up, But those two pillars of order have been persistently kicked in the knackers over the last few years, and I doubt they have the presence or the will to put up much resistance. Expect to see a sharp rise in G4S taking over greater law and order responsibilities – regardless of the Olympic debaclé.

    I am beginning to think that the so called ‘doomsday preppers’ are not so mad after all.

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  8. Says it all really
    “Permanent Under Secretary of State for education/employment”
    PUSSEE

    “wereallreallydoomed’s” BOLLOCKS need to kick this PUSSEE hard.

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  9. I agree. We ‘greys’ need to ensure more and more people hear his views and similar views held by others of his ilk. To those of us who have worked for 40 years and found time to participate in our communities on a voluntary basis while paying for Baron *rse-holes like Bichard, his views are deeply offensive.

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  10. Oi, slogger, for God’s sake stop writing “in excess of” when you mean “more than”. We don’t pay you by the word.

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  11. Words fail me – but I’m sure that a baseball bat could express my sentiments adequately. It might even remodel some of the rough edges of his ugliness.

    Talking about ugly – it has been my experience that ‘grabbers’ tend to be blessed with an above-average amount of plug-ugliness. Has anyone else ever noticed this?

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  12. John, good that you highlight this issue. One thing I would recommend though is a different rhetorical approach. If you really want to get people to notice this issue, you need to spell out what fraction of government expenditure is wasted on these inflated pensions. Then propose a levelling of the playing field and show how this would alter the imbalances in the state finances.

    So this guy retires early, let’s say he has 75% of the years of contribution needed for a full pension. Then let’s cap any civil service pension at say 40k /annum. So he only gets 30k/annum, from 65 onwards, or a reduced amount from an earlier point, if he wants. Say we expect people to live for 20 years after retirement at 65, so if he wants to dig in the pot 10 years early, then he can get the same total over a longer period, so about 2/3rds of the 30k/annum, or 20 k/annum. Seems like a fair system to me.

    If you can then calculate how this would affect government expenditure you could show that the austerity cuts needed can be achieved by shafting these parasites. I fully understand that this in a non-trivial exercise. Any sloggers out there with the time and skills to help John with this?

    David.

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  13. Either the vast overwhelming majority of the population of this planet is going to be plundered into poverty and servitude by these blood-sucking vampires. Or these monstrously greedy and self-interested disgraceful examples of human DEvolution are going to meet an appropriately karmic demise.

    The universe will always seek balance. It demands it. Nothing would exist without balance. This is a basic and fundamental law of our reality. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Cause and effect. Proven by science. Poeticised in philosophy. If the pendulum swings one way, it must always swing back the other way.
    The current state of affairs are monumentally unbalanced in favour of the very few. Do you believe these few have the power to change the laws of reality? Do you really believe they can stop that pendulum from swinging back? With their “money”?
    You don’t have to have faith in a god or a religion or a philosophy or a branch of science. Just have faith in REALITY. Don’t believe this is how things are going to remain.

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  14. O/T but events here in Greece stumble from bad to worse. This from Ekathimerini….love the bit about `rebuilding of confidence` when the real purpose is total control……

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_24/10/2012_467146

    Those interested can read the relevant document here on the Guardian website. Worth noting that it was helpfully released by PASOK

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/oct/24/eurozone-crisis-greece-austerity-memorandum-draghi

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  15. Hahaha – got there in the end. Had to look at past revision though. The giggle-inducing ending, ‘He is an *rsehole’, was edited out this morning.

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  16. JW,

    Are MP’s and upper civil servant Pensions RPI Indexed linked or like the rest of us CPI Indexed?

    Do ‘Quangoistas’ also accrue Pension rights along with their compensation for their very part time and nearly always inexpert contribution to the problems supposedly being sorted by the Quango?

    I am sure someone knows, I would be very grateful if someone can enlighten me.

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  17. Pension = pointless.

    The moral of the story is apparently to stash your loot in a galaxy far, far away from the thieving hands of the likes of Bichard.

    Ran in inquiry into the Soham murders, did he? Another day, more paedophilia. I thought inquiries into murders were the job of the police. The purpose of an official inquiry, as we now know, is to obfuscate. Bit of a red flag. So what was there to obsure in this case, I wonder?

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  18. How wonderful for this stupid, stupid man to have been able to retire in his fifties, and with all that cash. I officially retired at 63, went back to work until I was 65, doing 24 hour shifts caring for the elderly, no pun intended, but plenty meant, how are these idiots allowed to make these idiotic comments, he lives such a privilaged life, he should be made to live the life of real life pensioner who has to turn the heat off in winter just to be able to feed themselves. Please get to grips with the real world m’ lord, of stupidity.

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  19. @ zoompad.
    All good fun poke fun at the, so called Pratts of the upper class. But and it is a big but, they got there without being too stupid and most have hung to their wealth for centuries. While we the Plebs have just laught at these comedy sketches.
    Check out the Bio of Monty Python & co most are from Oxbridge. Talk about cake and circuses.

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  20. The saying, “Do as i say, Not as i do” applies here.
    Bear in mind All MP’s, Local Councillors get a pension of 1/30 of the Salary or Councillor Allowance when they reach 65 for every year in office, [Councillors for the past 5years only]
    But a good article John, one that you won’t find on MSM even if you sent it to them.
    As to what we shall do about it? moan on this type of blogg, down at the local with your mates, at the wife or maybe just kick the dog/cat and then go back to sleep.

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  21. The government is about to sharply reduce future pensions of the Armed Forces. Might this not be a good time to get the DM or DT to start a campaign against the outrageous deal that the Sir Humphries have?

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  22. From the BBC report – ‘He acknowledged it would be difficult for politicians to sell to the public, but added: “So was tuition fees.”‘

    I hadn’t realised that tuition fees had ever been ‘sold’ to us, given the outcry, more the policy equivalent of a ‘compulsory purchase order’.

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  23. There is a new zoological classification for this type of individual: Homo Rictus Ridiculous. Together they form Antisocial Remuneration Scheme Embezzlers and meet every Turdsday at the Sphinx and Sphincter. The descriptor ‘ treacherous and merciless’ is not a myth.

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  24. It’s a pity that there’s an entry in Wikipedia for this guy, while the detailed info should be in Uncyclopedia.
    IMHO, a Hall of Shame should be created, in or aside of The Slog, for noted personalities like the one described here.

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  25. You’e quite right David.
    I tried this calculation when I ran the 2010 pce. Back then I think it worked out at a £2m pension pot per head.
    The other stunning stat is that a mere 16,000 of the bastards account for 25% of the ‘unbudgeted’ amount. It must have been perpetrated at the highest level – around 2006, just as Broooon began to relaise what was going to hit.
    About the time he was never planning to have an election for which the local party circulars had already been printed.

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  26. ot .@tomwatsonmp ask question about historic allegations linking possible paedophile ring to Parliament & No 10
    Dave nonplussed but will look into it.

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  27. It is a sad state of affairs, that these parasites are endemic inside our system of government, at all levels.
    The old boys network in this recession is one of the few organisations showing growth.

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  28. “As to what we shall do about it? moan on this type of blogg, down at the local with your mates, at the wife or maybe just kick the dog/cat and then go back to sleep.”

    Yes, but by blogging and moaning we disseminate. I expect the majority of readers on this blog, and many like it, are, like myself, disillusioned, post-40 somethingers, who are constantly berated by their friends and better halfs for being grumpy old (wo)men.

    But I am finding that the moaning is slowly percolating down into the discussions of the younger generations. And while I think that most young’uns lack the capacity to form cogent sentences (I’m an old bigot too) they do have the ability to translate the information into yoof-speek and disseminate it via facebook or twitter or the like.

    If anyone, it will be the younger generations who will bring about change.

    We are the seeds that were planted generations ago and who have slowly crept towards the surface to bring new life into the world. Once the seedling has broken through and seen the light our task is done.

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  29. I’ll go ahead and say the most direct thing that most of us are already thinking:

    “Lord Bichard, do be a good fellow and f**k off.”

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  30. I don’t follow the pension pot logic here, these pensions are paid out of tax receipts or borrowing on an ongoing basis. There is no pot to pay them from, it’s straight from our pockets. So then taking your numbers, assuming things average out there are about 20,000 of them getting 100k per annum. That’s 2e4 * 1e5 = 2e9, 2 billion per annum for their upkeep. That’s quite a fair bit of cash, but still peanuts compared to the 500 billion or so of total government expenditure (of which about 92 Billion goes on pensions).

    What I propose is that if someone can deliver the stats on how many ex-civil servants are on which band of pension, grouped in say 5k bands, then we could calculate what the effect of a cap would be. I’d assume the 16,000 Sir Humphreys of which John speaks are only the tip of an iceberg. So say:

    95-100 k/annum 9,700
    100-105 k/annum 5,600
    105-110 k/annum 4,200

    What’s baffling to me, is that surely this guy owns his home. So what does he find to spend 120k / annum on? How much does a pensioner that owns their own home need to live a decent life?

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  31. I agree, things will certainly change, it’s the method that brings about the change that could be the issue. I think that nothing short of bloody revolution is going to change anything, they are not going to take their snouts out of the trough willingly, are they?

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  32. “there to stick his head down the lavatory, while the occupant flushes the chain.”

    With an increasingly fashionable, and in this case aptly named, ‘back to the wall’ pan this could work. However, with only 6 litres of flush available due to the Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999, some extra impetus may be required to finish the job, as it were. If we could just find a few (thousand) volunteers to piss into the cistern and provide a longer flush, I feel that this minor technical impediment could be overcome.

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  33. If more and more people loudly voice the fact that they are going to vote UKIP then, it will force the current incumbents to act, if only to save their own backsides. It’s the only power we have left.

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  34. Wasn’t it T.Bliar who brought in pay for local councillors? Were they always? paid, I always thought not, that they did this duty out of concern for their community, & were simply allowed to claim expenses.

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  35. I might be too ideological, possibly pink and fluffy and hippy about this… I will admit to that, but I just don’t think a guillotine in trafalqar square and retribution is the answer. I have a fear that it would diminish our humanity and perpetuate this bullshit. We need to rise above the practises of the past. Change the record. If we are to make progress.

    I do like the idea of a quarantined inescapable island where they are all herded and forced to sort it out amongst themselves. Lets see them quantitatively ease themselves out of their.

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  36. I have to say that I might be willing to do a little community service at any time I start to receive a pension the same size as Bichard’s.

    At least he managed to retire at 53. I’m still trying to reach pension age (they keep moving the goalposts…)

    And besides most of the retired people I know are giving more to the community (voluntarily) than Bichard does (as far as I’m aware).

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  37. Yep – which is why the major parties said “pension reform is off the table”. They bribe the olds to shaft the young. Luckily they know the old have zero conscience and on and on we go!

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  38. Agree wholeheartedly with the baseball bat .My first puerile thought was how much pleasure I would get punching the lights out of his supercilious smarmy f……g face.

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  39. The total irony of the man. The outcome of his Soham enquiry input is the whole Crimal Records Check apparatus, which is a major deterent to volunteering for community involvement, by young and old alike.

    Add that to legistaltion that puts upper age limits on roles like company director, magistrate etc, and the continued threat to take older drivers off the road, and the opportunity to participate is shrunk considerably.

    The arrogance of the man, and his mates, is beyond belief.

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  40. Not this, the old are a drain on the young, bollox again.

    The old have paid everything demanded of them for decades, now it appears that for all those years governments of all hue were lying through their teeth about it being sufficient to provide for old age. Forgive me if I didn’t know that, neither I bet did you. So how is that the fault of the bleeding old?

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  41. Bichard is NOT a member of the upper classes, he’s just a rich Bich. (he’s a life peer who was rewarded for services to some other rich bod in 2010)

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  42. We note that Sir Norman Bettison, Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, has finally concluded that, in order to secure his pension properly, he must resign with immediate effect today – allegedly on account of all the Hillsborough ‘truth’ emerging.

    Just wonder if he had a view on the Jimmy Savile cover-up too ? Or even a role in it from that location ?

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  43. I’m no fan of state employees’ pensions, but we do need to be a bit careful with the figures. The number you quote is the NPV of the the state pension payments. That needs to be set against the NPV of the income of the state, discounted over the same period. In other words, set one year’s cost against one year’s income, or all years’ costs against all years’ incomes. You will find the results rather less dramatic, though still excessive.

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  44. The matter of non contributory state pensions will come to a head when the country’s economy finally admits that it has crashed, that’s at about QE7. Then there will be a hell of a row and all state pensions (inter alia) will be standardised at an affordable level. Which may be rather low. Grades, final salaries, special one-off contributions, years of service, political connections will all be irrelevant.

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  45. Look I’m not a Brit so your going to have to explain this slowly to me. I came across Bichard’s ‘new idea’ article and looked for dissent. The comments were absurd, suggesting the new idea as a new idea to be considered. Bichard is peerage, the new idea is as old as the peerage itself. It is about slavery, it is about neo-nazism, plain and simple. Why were the commenters actually thinking it was a worthy idea to be bandied about? Why didn’t they express outrage at the very idea of it? The absurdity of it was trial ballooned which is why comments were even allowed. Demographic politics is pure evil, are the peerage so desperate they simply can’t fathom the economy and the politics is finished?

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  46. When you listen to people like this, you may or may not despise them but it becomes more obvious the basic state pension does not support a person anymore. FACT!

    When some “hooray henry” like Lord Bichard starts speaking the implication of what he says actually make interesting reading. A bit like Lord Turner saying we have never had it so good implying econmically it is not going to get any better anytime soon in fact probably far worse. FACT!

    So are there any more people who perceive themselves to be of higher worth who would like to share their comments? Us mere lessor people actually learn alot from what you say and can establish facts from this.

    Good oh! Hurrah, hurrah.

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  47. Spiller, the only guillotine that is required is the one to restrict all public service/poiticians pensions to £40k per annum. Seems eminently reasonable to me. If they restricted pay offs to that amount too, the deficit would soon disappear.

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  48. Please note: Reply from Mr Bichard to my email:

    Thanks.and maybe you should know that I did not make this suggestion and do not believe pensioners should have to work.I asked some questions of witnesses at a select committee.that has been misrepresented on the BBC website which I very much regret.

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  49. Lafarge should be awarded the Nobel Prize for Brutal Honesty.

    At the very least, he should become an Honorary Slogger.

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  50. They used to claim per meeting and expenses that’s why quite a few went in had their names taken and excused themselves to go to another meeting and possibly even another one and do the same. It was such a problem the gov decided to pay them all an allowance, basic plus extra for extra responsibilities. Until quite recently I didn’t know they had their snouts in the pension trough as well!

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  51. Yes, indeed. Just think of those presently at the helm of the EU – Barroso, rumpypumpy, SS Shultz and Ashton, to name but a few.

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  52. Thanks. I assure you it is born out of genuine despair – and the certain knowledge that my power to change any of this sh*t ends at my fingertips. The same goes for everyone, but together we are mighty!

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  54. I’ve been reeding (mispell intentional) Fred for years……….’the sage’ has an interesting view on things (likewise generally a bolloookz deconstructor) but if you haven’t been there before, make sure you go through his ‘policing section’ also. It is eminently enlightening :)

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  55. Excellent article.

    Especially satisfying list of all this man’s accomplishments.

    It’s no wonder we’re a non-competing country when we’ve got silver spoon fed knobs like this in positions of responsibility.

    We should be able to vote against paying these muppets their fat pensions.

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  56. I have come across this appalling man several times in my life unfortunately. He never stays anywhere too long, creates chaos, moves on, and leaves others to clear up the shambles. It angers me that he is a lord, he has no conception ot the real world in which most of us live. Strip all his titles from him and make him do some grass roots voluntary work- he may learn alittle about people and life

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  57. The pensions office told me when I reached 60 three years ago that my state pension would be £90+ per week. As I could not even rent a room for that money in london where i was living at the time, i realised I would need to keep on working till I dropped.

    If I had taken the pension and had to work for that money would this not be effectively employing me below the minimum wage? Government gangmasters rule, yeah!

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  59. I think it’s a
    disgusting idea once more proposed by someone who, no doubt, has a very large
    pension and independent means.

    I am one of the “younger pensioners” – if such a
    catagory exists and I care for my 90 year old parents , both of whom have
    severe senile dementia but refuse state help, they may well have reached an
    advanced age but their quality of life is zilch! just what is the point?
    perhaps this nincumpoop would prefer to introduce euthanasia so that the
    unprofitable are no longer a burden on society!

    And now he suggests that I work for “doing
    nothing” does this man have no idea of the amount of unpaid work carers
    like my self undertake in our society? he might like to consider that the next
    time he sips claret at his club!

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  60. This is outrageous that any civil servant can retire on anything but the most basic state pension.As the author if this article states they have been the cause of catastrophic blunders that have downgraded this country.
    He should have had the common sense to keep quiet but alas the arrogance of office has not been lost on him, perhaps he should donate his pension to the state?
    After all as a Lord he hath privilege enough hath he not?

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  61. after reading his brilliant buttered on both sides career i wonder how my Lord has the gaul to even utter anything as he has done nothing to talk about and has sat on that many quangoes i bet he has had a heck of a JOB to survey his domain while he has diaried in that many lunch appointments with wine of course that by the afternoon it was probably feet up along with huge yawns while he pondered the time of when his packed in working day ended.(ps) been there seen it done it .

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  63. I think its a good idea, and send 6yr olds up chimneys, and 8 yr olds in cotton mills, 18 hours a day 7 days a week!!
    Doff your cap and bow!!
    Thats what they want, the bastards.

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  64. What a shallow and fatuous fool. Sums up all that’s wrong with career technocrats who should, like monkeys, be paid with peanuts, so vapid and inane are they.

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  65. This guy retired at 53 on 120k of course he can do some unpaid work. The most of us have worked are arses off all our lives and at 65 onwards deserve the right to retire and enjoy our twilight years. He is talking out of his backside. Kick him out of the House of Lords, he is a discredit to the countries older community and is totally disrespectful of pensioners.

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  66. This is absolutely disgusting anyone could think of such a thing.these elderly have worked all there days!! Am disgusted at this hoe can u expect 80 year old to go out there working after all the tax they have put into the world after there hard earned days of wok !!! Get some of the ones depending on freebies to do this like ur herion addicts to do this!!!!!

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  67. I think it’s a great idea but it needs a twist to make it work properly. Those who’ve sponged, squandered, avoided paying tax and wasted the countrys’ money the most get the shi**ier jobs whilst those who’ve contributed the most get the cushy jobs.

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  68. Just did some sums and came up with £960,000,000 per annum extra being spent on the doubling up of the 16,000 pensions. No wonder we are skint.

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  69. How woderful for the dear peer … I retired at 61 after a working life of 46 years … I receive the very princely sum of around oooo£117.00 each week .. How bloody good I’d that .. And sn afterthought I only have spam on Wednesdays .. Sausage are for Sunday’s and bank holidays !!!!

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  70. Will this so called peer with his &120,000 pension be made to do charity works for his massive pension. When other pensioners only get a 10th of what he get this is wrong and he is a disgrace

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  71. all these comments achieve nothing, if every one bombarded there politicians with e mails 24/7 the party system of govt is a joke and be scrapped and the best man in the country given the job, the party system is a joke, whatever one party says the opposition says the opposite (except when they are coming up with a pay rise for themselves, and why are politicians allowed to retire and get a pension and then start working again, pensions should only be paid out when a person finishes working at 65, this guy should be hung drawn a quartered for his comments, !disgusted!

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  72. Thank you for article on the pension and other perks Lord Bichard enjoys. Scandalous.
    I don’t know much about these things but it seems that when you lift the lid off the “goings-ons” of high up people who we should be able to respect as worthy pillars of society, a maggot infested corpse is to be found.
    How the Establishment can hold its head up I don’t know. We had the Lords and MP’s expenses scandal, it seems there is a secret pension scandal for the privileged few, now there’s Lord Sewel indulging his dodgy sexual and drug predilections – all causing Middle England (and the on-looking world) to distrust them all the more. This is a shame because I suspect some of them are decent and hard working.
    But there is no doubt fat cats, noses in the trough, trousers down round their ankles, snorting white powder and laughing at the rest of us, DO bring the Establishment into disrepute.
    When I think of the mindless and pointless sacrifice of members of the Armed forces, acting on the orders of the Government, aided by these kind of people, it makes me very sad.
    So please keep putting out your blog and expose what you find.
    Only thing is I came across your writing by chance – is it available on Facebook?
    All the best
    George Hesse

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  73. What a twat never done a days work in his pampered life. Just one of the many who is totally out if touch with the ordinary people of this country

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  74. What an idiot!! When he retires is he going to work in the community?? The elderly have earned their right to retirement by working for their pension. It’s about time these morons realised the pension isn’t a gift from the government but a tax payers right!!

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  75. He actually looks like Himley. What’s he ever done for a days graft shag kids. Yes the workers can insult you just as much!

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  76. There are many people on the pension who are still contributing members of society but that should be a choice and not forced on them. Bichard a double dirty white collar upstart has the immense cheek to suggest such a thing. He got rich on the backs of the tax payer the ugly punk. Our old people earned their money honestly and deserve to live the rest of their lives doing what they want to do. So “FK” off and leave our golden oldies alone.

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  77. What a f….. Stupid man i worked feom 15 to 66 and onmy retired at 66 due to health problems. Pension dont maje me laugh he should try luving on mine lije to ring his neck

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  78. The only ones to blame are us for letting anybody in we sit on our asses .cant be botherd to vote… people of this country put them where they are today we moan about them..dont moan do something .. vote vote get of our ass and vote get them all all all out think of our homeless..our flood victims.
    our eldererly our disabled our doctors ambulance . Fire ect ect.. do it for our country….vote the torries out..we put them there lets get them out.. everyone and i mean everyone dont sit on your ass and moan vote

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  79. It’s absolutely no good attacking the man’s face – he can’t help that. What he CAN help is his views and his mumblings. However, it seems as if he MAY have been misquoted, his words taken out of context (it happens ALL the time, to provide spectacular headlines in the Daily Wail etc) Also, he wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth – he’s not a Hereditary Peer. BUT, don’t be fooled into thinking I’m an apologist for him as I most certainly am NOT! I loathe and despise the Tories. I just like to get facts right. As a country, we do seem very keen to jump on people with our bovver boots on rather too quickly in many cases and then have to retract, although I well understand the outrage we all feel at the way things are going and in fact have done for many years without us hardly realising it. The two major things that are wrong are UNFETTERED CAPITALISM and our CURRENT VOTING SYSTEM. Sort those two things out and we might revert to some normal society. Yes, I KNOW it’s not quite as simple as that – as we all know, there are at least fifty shades of grey in between, but something along those lines has got to help. We can no longer expect to appreciate being herded into two sections of society with 1% of the population holding the power and wealth with the 99% becoming the serfs of old.

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  80. “Bichard was a permanent secretary in Whitehall, until his retirement at the age of 53 in 2001.”

    I think someone may have taken him out of context, I think he means ‘Public Sector’ people like him, though I notice he waited until he turned 65. If I read him right, he’s referring to people akin to him, who retired early, what he’s saying is, why do they get given the pension so early?
    But even so, they are entitled to this money, why look for a job that isn’t there, which was the whole reason for retiring you in the first place.

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  81. I think he or they seem to forget that most of the people drawing pensions have paid got them out of there wages some over 50 years. So what should some idiot sitting in an Ivory tower that has not done a single days work in there life. Have the down right cheek to slate pensioners. What needs to happen is take all their fat cat pensions off them and make them do a decent days work. And then try and live off a normal persons pension. I am quite sure what will happen they will soon run back up the stairs to their ivory tower and close the door and hide away. TOFFEE NOSED TOSSER JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE PRATS THAT TRY AND RUN THE COUNTRY WHEN THEY LIVE ON ANOTHER PLANET. Rant over

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  82. Get some of the free loader who come into our country and claim health and benefits to do this work. I’ve paid into the system and so did my late husband who only had 12 weeks of his pension of which I get £35. What’s he do in his spare time sweep road or clear snow. My final word for him is unprintable but the last bit is OFF

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  83. Stick ur head down the loo, they have paid the dues and entitled to there money, how did they make him a lord beggers belief.

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  84. That’s OK. Appoint all us pensioners as members of the same place he goes to and we can all work 20 minutes a day for a daily allowance of £300. Sign-me up Doc!

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  85. I am due to retire on 7th March I am told that I will receive £105 per week after paying for my weekly out goings (electric etc) I will be left with just under £50 to live on he wants to live on that. And I will chose whether to any community work or not.

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  86. This is a very sad state of affairs.I’m guessing that nothing can be done to him ,legally,that is.Therefore we must make sure this does not happen again.Makes my blood boil knowing he’s not the only thief receiving this kind of hand out.

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  87. A parasite tells pensioners they are parasites.
    There’s a surprise. #toryrrism

    Lots of love, An Australian also suffering under ultra-right-wing arseholes.

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  88. Not everyone who has toiled away in the public sector is on a good pension. And don’t forget, there are no staff discounts or cheap share options for public set or workers. I’ve worked in both the private and public sectors. There were far more “perks” in the private sector!!

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  89. This is brilliant commentary. Put sir Humphrey back in his box and ship him off somewhere very far away. What a pompous stupid selfish prat. Words fail me. Love your phrase arrogant insouciance – sums it all up. WHY DID HE RETIRE AT AN EARLY AGE OF 53?? Not up to the job? What double standards and so two faced. Unfortunately government all over . Never tell us what we need to know and only what they think we need to know. I am incensed about his views and he should be taken down a peg or two. What is he hiding in the closet ? hum hum ……

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