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TOM WATSON V TOMMY ROBINSON

SLOG DOUBLE-HEADER SPECIAL: THE CHRONIC NEED FOR GLASNOST IN MULTICULTURAL BRITAIN

methink2 Over the last few days, we have seen Tomcats and Tommyguns squaring up to each other on the issue of free speech about the wisdom or otherwise of uncontrolled immigration into Britain. It is central to what both liberal democracy and Brexit are about, and until there is realism and openness on all sides, there will be no healing in our country. Tom Watson is wrong to censor, and Tommy Robinson is misguided in his censure. In a two-part special, The Slog outlines the mistakes everyone made in the past, and the effort we all need to make in the future.

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Some years ago, I had a brief correspondence with Labour deputy leader Tom Watson. I’d been given the intro by one of my more leftist Sloggers (long since departed down the Momentum rabbit-hole) because I wanted to know more about his views on paedophile rings in politics. Tom had, some weeks earlier, accused senior Conservatives of a cover-up involving senior paedophile politicans around Mrs Thatcher some twenty years earlier.

He’d been recommended to me as “not metropolitan Labour”, and generally a good egg. We enjoyed some quite affable email exchanges, towards the end of which I raised the issue of such rings being covered up by Labour – this time at local level, and with specific reference to “Yorkshire”. The correspondence ended abruptly.

Over the last few days, Watson has been spraying the social media with demands for Tommy Robinson to be banned. The minute one starts to engage with any issue involving this complex young man, the deep waters beckon: a million or more knees will jerk to attention, and a million mouths will open to yell, “Racist!”

I have three profound objections to what Tom Watson is doing. The first is that he appears to have forgotten what free speech is. The second is his confusion between empirical observation and phobia. The third is his fervent desire to have free speech for his beliefs and observations, but not for other people’s.

But as I say – this is Tommy Robinson territory, and so some throat-clearing is obligatory. Although I am happy to note (based on solid evidence) that he has many friends in his circle who are of other ethnicities to his own – and thus branding him an outright racist is miles offside – I don’t like the syntax Robinson uses about Islamics. I think his objection to Pakistanis in particular is a cultural one to do with grooming and gang rape. Some of the content of his speeches is accurate and in many ways brave; but the tone he adopts and the use of gutter terms is not just inappropriate: it is that of a bloke who craves attention in general and martyrdom in particular. Tommy courts outrage and invites arrest. There is an instability about him I recognise, and it always repels me. I am not a fan, and I can’t imagine any circumstances in which I’d vote for him.

The specific thing to bear in mind here, before moving on, is that I hold exactly the same views about Boris Johnson. I just don’t see any police hurrying to arrest Bojo.

It is vital at the outset to examine the language used by Tom Watson in demanding (for that is what he did) the denial of free speech for Robinson….and the Labour man’s apparent insouciance to the both unaccountable and unregulated nature of those to whom he wrote. The way Twitter, Google and Facebook casually ban, censor and block views they don’t like is a matter for government, as it is clear that these behemoths will never reform themselves. As they all happily stroll about in the shadows of State security, it ought to be a constant source of worry to our elected representatives that they exist way above the law and beyond it’s civic reach.

But Tom didn’t do that: he wrote to a foul élite in a manner that showed his determination to shut one guy up. That’s bad enough: but as we shall see, he did it in a way very likely to be protect his own tribe against investigation.

Robinson is already banned from Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Now, in a letter to Google chief executive Sundar Pichai, Watson claims it is “quite clear from the comment threads on stories documenting this decision that his supporters are transferring over their virulent hate to YouTube” and this is “a matter of utmost urgency to follow the lead that has been, belatedly, set by Facebook, and remove forthwith all ‘Tommy Robinson’ and related pages from your YouTube platform.”

The way the MP sees ordinary and young people is evidenced in the way he claims that

‘the virus of Mr Robinson’s views could groom countless more followers via the platform…’

 …..which is, at best, quasi-medical claptrap based on the classic Leftlib attitude about the vox populi: not very deep down, liberal fascists distrust its capacity for imbibing evil. Such thinking is worthy of Thomas Hobbes and Josef Goebbels.

The tone adopted by Watson on Twitter resembles that of his stablemate Owen Jones. Some examples:

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“Must, imperative, smash, urgent, forthwith” etc etc etc….IwantIwantIwant. Also, the leger de main of ‘violent’ and ‘racist’ into one character trait is pure and deliberate demonisation: it’s hard to show Yaxley-Lennon (Robinson’s real name) is racist in a general sense, and while he has a history of violence, it has been towards the State in general. His objection is to Islamification: that isn’t racism.

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It’s very disappointing to see Tom using an utterly false concept like Islamaphobia, and using to it score cheap political points like “can’t be easy”. It puts his judgement in doubt given the host of recent grooming gang convictions (and over a decade of unequalled Jihadist violence). A phobia, let’s face it, is a fear of the totally or nearly impossible. Equally, it isn’t on to suggest that, based on Barones Warsi of all people, the Tory Party is a vipers’ nest of murderous Zionists.

If you think there’s a pattern developing in Watson’s tweets, then you could be right. The two above and the one following have all appeared over the last two days:

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Yup, Tom is really onto something here. Racism bad, abuse bad, antisemitism bad = Corbyn bad. I’m inclined to agree, but if we’re accusing rabble-rousers of playing the race card in Britain right now, Watson is a much bigger suspect than Yaxley-Lennon.

There are various ways to play the race card. Tommy Robinson’s “culturalist” approach is often unpleasant. Tom Watson’s style is more the ruthless politician out for the Labour leadership thing. Both set a truly appalling example.

My third objection is related to the abrupt cessation of friendly emails between Tom and I in 2014. Because it seems to me that what Tom did there was to protect his tribe. He grasped the privilege of Parliament back then to make accusations of Tory paedophilia, his sources for which are on trial right now for false witness. By no means everything he said was inaccurate. What sticks in my throat is the bloke’s blasé attitude to alleging cover-up one day, and then being implicated in doing the same the next.

But banning talk about such things simply is not the way to tackle the problem. The problem – being factually objective about it – is that for over forty years now, the British political class has been in denial about a mass immigration of varietal cultures into Britain, not all of which have gelled well under all circumstances.

We will not solve the problem by not talking about it….or denying reality. That’s been the problem; the answer, funnily enough, isn’t more of the same. More of the same produced grooming gangs and rape on an industrial scale. And grooming gangs helped create Tommy Robinson.

Now Tom Watson wants to ban debate about it. There is no difference between such a wish, and the determination of the Soviets before Gorbachev to deny the existence of homosexuality in their culture. That’s a terrifying comparison for any liberal democracy to face up to.

TOMORROW: THE REALITY OF CULTURAL FRICTION, AND THE MIGRATION DISASTER THAT WAS TONY BLAIR

22 thoughts on “SLOG DOUBLE-HEADER SPECIAL: THE CHRONIC NEED FOR GLASNOST IN MULTICULTURAL BRITAIN

  1. >> Mr B J Mann
    >> March 7, 2019 at 4:08 am
    >> As I Tweeted in response to young Tommy Watson-Leftone[‘s] love letter about Tommy Robinson:
    >> By the way how often do you write #VladimirIlyichUlyanov, #LevBronstein, #IosifVissarionovichDzhugashvili, #ErnestGuevara, #NguyễnSinhCung, #SalothSar or even #EricArthurBlair
    >> Better known in the UK & globally as #Lenin, #Trotsky, #Stalin, #Che, #HoChiMinh, #PolPot & #Orwell
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    > Thank you for the only thread I’ve ever received here that tells me nothing I didn’t know already, while leaving me utterly clueless about what your point is.
    > JW

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    Apologies.

    My sense of humour or lack of it is not to everyone’s taste.

    And I always struggle to strike a balance between brevity and detail, especially when constrained by Twitter’s character limit.

    People always either complain I witter on too long or they don’t understand my point.

    I’ll try again:

    Tom Watson, like many people who disagree with Tommy Robinson, one of whose real names, is, as you know, Yaxley-Lennon, pointedly referred to him by the latter name, “better known in the UK & globally as” the former, in his letter to the YouTube CEO demanding his banning from that platform.

    I responded to his tweet circulating the letter to check if he similarly referred to heroic socialist figures, and even the other Blair, in the same way, or if he had double standards.

    Whilst you might have been aware of the detail of his letter, and my reply, I, perhaps mistakenly, thought that others might not have noticed his hypocrisy, or even been aware of the detail of his letter, or the related Tweets.

    Apologies again.

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  2. As I Tweeted in response to young Tommy Watson-Leftone love letter about Tommy Robinson:

    By the way how often do you write #VladimirIlyichUlyanov, #LevBronstein, #IosifVissarionovichDzhugashvili, #ErnestGuevara, #NguyễnSinhCung, #SalothSar or even #EricArthurBlair

    Better known in the UK & globally as #Lenin, #Trotsky, #Stalin, #Che, #HoChiMinh, #PolPot & #Orwell
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    Thank you for the only thread I’ve ever received here that tells me nothing I didn’t know already, while leaving me utterly clueless about what your point is.
    JW

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  3. I very much get the sense that Tom Watson attacked the Tories over their alleged paedophiles in order to dissuade them from exposing the fact that virtually every Labour council in the land has been covering up Islamic rape gangs. Cameron being a globalist wuss decided to avoid the confrontation. Instead he gave a very unspecific press conference telling the journalists that there had been ‘child abuse on an industrial scale’ and that it was a ‘national threat’.

    Pretty hard to imagine Labour and the liberal Left press doing the same if the Tories had covered up white men raping Muslim children.

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  4. I suppose that Lenin’s thinking was ‘confused’…
    “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”
    I suppose that the French are ‘confused’ when they added the phrase “agent provocateur” to their language?
    For a supposed intelligent man, you seem rather closed minded to this possibility, but ok John. it is me, I’m confused.

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  5. The difference between the man and woman in the street and your garden variety politician is ….free speech matters. ….its not who says it but the value of what they say.
    We all know pricks that say things that make sense now and then.

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  6. i will take TR over TW any day . TR is talking about the the Curse of Islam which has been brought upon our country by the likes of TW and his predecessors .
    Tommy is talking about something the LibLabCon Green plus media will not touch with a bargepole . PC has buttoned their lips . They will button Tommys lip sooner or later and who will speak out then ? The rape gangs in Rotherham are still happening so I believe . The police would rather arrest TR though !

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  7. Mr Robinson is our only authentic “Enemy of the State” , he has acquired that tag for that most heinous crime of embarrassing our political masters over the grooming scandal and much else. For this crime they have done their best to eliminate him , they have falsely imprisoned him , 6 armed policemen have kicked his door in at 4 in the morning and managed to find nothing more than a mortgage fraud, but succeeded in ruining his businesses. “If it does not embarrass someone then it’s just free publicity” was a quote I believe from Rothermere, well TR has done that and then some, and that is intolerable to our political classes of all parties.
    The de-platforming of people under the auspices of “hate speech” , usually comprising a collection of weaponised words straight from the Frankfurt School play book has become a tool of repression. In the USA even banks are closing the accounts of people who are right wing.
    The proponents of free speech need to get smarter in fighting back. I always like acting dumb , when someone calls me a racist I usually ask them, what do you mean by that , in the context of what I just said , usually because I do not run away like Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone they get annoyed. Then I ask them do you mean the word that one of histories greatest mass murderers popularised and weaponised, namely Leon Trotsky. You know the guy who murdered the Russian Royal family , killed 60 million Russians, burned down 40,000 Christian churches , killed 200,000 priests and deliberately starved to death 7-10 million Kulak farmers, and set up the Gulag political prisons.
    In the end we are having to put up with this crap because we went to sleep and the Cultural Marxists crawled out from under their stones and took over control of the agenda, they started with the Universities , then the media , especially the BBC, and then the schools particularly primary ones , where the female storm troopers of Cultural Marxism have been indoctrinating our youth for 40 years in the guise of being teachers. Even when the Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of it’s own lies , the Cultural Marxists still carried on with their agenda.

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  8. John
    Re China ?: Many uk councils selling off spare public spaces at ‘Fire Sale’ prices!(Huff post).Selling off our children future , I’m thinking.
    Cnt Kalergi reigns supreme OK!
    I’m also thinking they (Chinese) will be looking to the bankers for a hair cut.
    ……..the councils have to get the dosh from somwhere…………………..IT AINT theirs to sell off.
    dofornow

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  9. Here is a little Fairy Story for the Children….
    Britain was suffering an outbreak of bothersome popularity…So…
    Tommy Pied Piper was Hired by the Wise Elite to remove the troublesome plebs.
    Tommy Pied Piper, plays His irresistible tune, it is just what the plebs want to hear…
    He says to the now Mesmerised, hapless plebs: ‘Jump into this big sack’. In their haste to jump into sack, they haven’t noticed that the sack is labelled in big, black stencilled capitals ASSORTED KNOBHEADS INCLUDING ISLAMOPHOBES, RACISTS, LITTLE ENGLANDERS. Tommy Pied Piper ties a rope around the sack. He then hands a pick axe handle to the MSM who then begin knock seven bells out of the sack and its contents.
    They have done this so many times, they know just where to hit the sack…
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    Is it me? Or does this thread suggest a confusion of the mind? JW

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  10. You don’t have to be a professor of linguistics to understand what TreasonMay is all about – she has always said we were going to have a closer and more useful role in europe – and that is what she is going to do. Her brexit means brexit mantra has never had any meaning, it a slogan to placate the many who ‘wish’ for it but it’s meaningless. She is about tying britain to europe indefinitely (the deal that never goes away).

    In the same way the elites (difficult to label Watson as one, but there ya go) are all saying the same. Maybe we can see a little of what their self-created ‘rules based order is about – a life of penuary, without the ability to question anything THEY do by the masses whilst the elites plunder the planet – that’s why the PEOPLE are not included or to be included. This is an exclusive club. The masses are merely the tools by which they operate – modern slavery in other words, which, of course, they are ‘trying’ to eradicate …. look at the budget differentials regarding income (their gain) and outgoings (their professed ways to deal with it) … it doesn’t make sense, the equivalent of spending a pound to prevent a billion pound problem!!

    Nowhere is there a peaceful means of resolving any of this and they already have all the tools to keep us in our place. I’m glad I’m nearly dead because I do not have the energy to fight at this level. Sadly, most people can’t even see the problem at all and most younger generations don’t have the skills or time to deal with it …. selfie anyone?

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  11. Yes, they are a product of their times. One born out of frustration with politicians and their smooth talking lies and disregard for the “common people”.

    The other, a smooth talking political operator who sees an opportunity to put down opponents on his own side and grab power and vengeance.

    Thank goodness for observers such as yourself John, who see through it and articulate what is going on with wit and wisdom. Long may it continue, although it would be nicer if there was no need.

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  12. I think the main objection to Tommy Robinson by Watson et al, is not what he thinks, or what he says, or what he does. No, it’s what he is – common! He don’t talk proper and he’s got a terrible haircut. Also, a lot of working-class people like him.

    Imagine if you will, someone like Rees-Mogg, or Johnson, or indeed anyone in ‘the bubble’ saying what Robinson says; they would at least be listened to even if they were then shouted down.

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  13. The National Press portays a virtual reality, of stuff, largely written by people sitting in armchairs, or in their parent’s bedroom, which they call their office. They are largely fed “News” from a central authority, which is largely controlled by organisations such as The CIA, and our own “Intelligence Services”, who most of the time give the impression at least to me, that they are a bit “thick” or to put a stronger analysis – Stupid. Unfortunately a lot of people actually believe this load of old bollocks, a great deal of which is literaly made up.

    Meanwhile, in the real world – real dramatic things actually happen, and these real events are reported (so far as I can tell – from personal knowledge), very accurately, though sometimes, they do not supply all the personal details, because most private individuals, do not want the evil bastards from the National Press, coming round their homes, and asking personal details and taking photographs.

    Yesterday, I got some very bad news, of a young persons death – by word of mouth. This made me rather upset. Almost immediately afterwards, I got some very good news, by a phone call, and this was accurately reported by the local press.

    Three lives saved.

    I am so proud of him.

    Tony

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  14. There is more chance of seeing God – or the European Commission withdrawing its objection to Brexit – than having a meaningful public debate about immigration. Political correctness and the promotion of minorities above the majority, not to mention the need to drive down wages in a dysfunctional economy, have seen to that. A consensual vocabulary no longer exists and the two sides will continue to shout at each other until they run out of breath.

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  15. jOHN,IS WATSON REALY WORTH EVEN DEBATING?, HE,S A NO ONE AND LIKE CORBYN NEVER WILL BE ANY ONE THAT MATTERS,THERE 3RD RATE,MIND YOU SO IS MAY. oops

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  16. while I find some of TR’s language and appalling grammar off putting and detrimental to his arguments ,i cannot but admire his bravery in taking on the state, which has effectively tried to kill him over the years . I don’t believe he is out to become a martyr but he is one of the few who dares to discuss and out what is going on in many communities ,including his own town of Luton. His removal from facebook and twitter is part of the very dangerous precedent being set in the closure of free speech in this country going hand in hand with the loss of democracy . TR today ;your blog tomorrow?

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  17. “What sticks in my throat is the bloke’s blasé attitude to alleging cover-up one day, and then being implicated in doing the same the next.”

    Come on John, he’s a politician. The only way Watson is currently different is that he is a bit more blatant about it, using accusation rather than innuendo. Which is probably why he has enjoyed notoriety rather than respect in his days as an MP.

    “…… for over forty years now, the British political class has been in denial about a mass immigration of varietal cultures into Britain …..”

    Not denial, collusion. They have not been “denying reality”, they have been actively shutting down any criticism, comment or debate on the one hand and ensuring a constant drip, drip of multi-cultural extolling propaganda is spread across the entire spectrum of the media on the other and then using legislation to make it stick, if for no other reason than they know a majority of the population is against it.

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  18. Well said, thank you.

    Politicians (like – in my view – the smarmy Watson) are always two-faced. It’s almost a requirement for the job, though there are always honourable exceptions. Generally they are like diapers: they should be changed often, and for the same reason.

    I think it’s vital we remain cynical in these trying times :-)

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  19. The expression of opinion is a fundamental human right. All censors are violators of human rights. They are totalitarians: no matter what their rhetoric or motivations. One can only have a free and democratic society where freedom of expression is guaranteed. People like Watson (ie, virtually the whole of the elite) want free expression for themselves, whilst denying it to everyone who disagrees with them. For them, the people are free to say whatever they like as long as it agrees with them. This is the same freedom of expression dictatorships down the ages have allowed.

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  20. Dear John
    Would you like to order one of my, soon to be produced Tee Shirts and/or mug, which will carry the slogan “RIP UK DEMOCRACY – DIED MARCH 2019”
    Price to be agreed but will be worth every penny (Not Euro!)

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  21. If Tom Watson and the Labour fairylanders really think Tommy Robinson is a ‘violent racist’ they want to get down to Sunderland city centre on a saturday night.
    Or any mosque on a friday.

    These middle-class hysterics wouldnt recognise a racist if they kicked them up the arse.

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