PARIS ATTACKS: this looks more and more like two teams involved

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WHY NO MANHUNT FOR THE RESTAURANT KILLERS?

Now that the immediate cops-and-killers Paris drama seems to be drawing to a close, some things look clear, but many others only slightly less confusing or implausible. Very obvious indeed are the main winners: the EC federalists, who are well on the way to forming some sort of Euroarmy; Vladimir Putin, who has pretty well secured his ally Assad’s position by bombing the hell out of ISIL; those keen to get rid of free EU movement, for whom this has been a lucky bounce to say the least; the US, which sees itself as somehow vindicated by the attacks; and the multivariate shades of policemen across the EU, who will now get even more impunity and draconian powers of Big Brother watchfulness than they had before.

The losers are greater in number, but much easier to define: the people of Paris, who must feel extremely vulnerable by now; and the ordinary citizens of Syria, whose sole solace for being the unlucky target of US oil mania has been to get bombed by pretty much everyone – the Russians, the Israelis, and now the French….with Camerlot not far down the road.

I was watching the BBCWorld channel earlier today, as a substantial majority of US Congressmen voted to stop any Syrians settling in the US. It has to be one of the more unaccountably selfish acts in history – open the door, lob some bombs onto the folks on the lawn, lock the door when they start burning to death – but then, we’ve seen it before from the US élite: when the Mullahs hit London, the senior US officer in place ordered all his men to get TF out with all speed. This we term a Special Relationship. For myself, I’d rather we had a more even-handed one.

One could never accuse Big Power autocrats of behaving responsibly, and  the US can be more hare-brained than most. Without asking Mrs Thatcher’s permission, they invaded the British territory of Grenada, and in order to dispose of the by then neutered Jihadist Osama Bin Laden they carried out a full-scale search and kill operation on Pakistani soil – again without asking that entirely Muslim nation. In turn, they were covertly involved at the start of the Golden Dawn trial in Greece, had troops as advisors on the ground in Libya, and a great many Ukrainian citizens on both sides have attested to the fact that American accented soldiers were clearly heard in the capital there….just, as it were, checking that the régime change was ticking along nicely.

Now, a week on from the Paris atrocity, I’ve been looking further at the order of events, the arrests made since, and the press releases given by various figures and organisations along the way. And I think there are good grounds for investigating the possibility that two types of attacker were involved.

To recap, 4 jihadists were at the Bataclan, and three at the Stade de France. One of the Bataclan assassins then left before the cops arrived, strolling the short distance to the Voltaire restuarant, where he blew himself up.

That meant all seven dead by 9:53 pm – and so having reviewed the other events of the evening, I pointed out that at least 10 and probably 11 terrorists were involved in total. The Paris authorities remained adamant that only seven were involved and one had a Syrian passport….until Tuesday, when it became clear that the Syrian passport was a fake, and the number involved had been nine.

Wednesday dawned and it was announced that the ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud had been shot (his missus having dutifully blown herself up). But then yesterday, it turned out he wasn’t the ringleader at all: this soubriquet now belongs to Salah Abdeslam, who is ‘on the run and fears ISIL reprisals for not having completed his assignments’ on the night in question. Ergo, he must have been an active participant….so the number involved now goes up to 12. But Abaaoud, we’re told, entered Europe as a fake refugee: so that narrative is still not dead – and I’m sure Nigel Farage is delighted by this. I happen to think there is a real danger from fake refugees, but either way you have to accept that this is the atrocity that aims to please every agenda in town.

If Abaaoud was at the event, then of course it means 13 nutters were out there.

Except I think it very possible that there were 9 nutters – and 4 others made of altogether different stuff.

I base this view on five key observations:

  1. The four hit nothing but restaurants
  2. Their demeanour was calm and silent
  3. They killed as pros, not as extremists
  4. None of them committed suicide
  5. They all got away.

True, having hit the Bataclan, one nutter went off to complain about the food at the Voltaire; but all the other eaterie witnesses saw large, ops-dressed muscular blokes get out of cars, fire at their targets, knock off some others they figured might be witnesses, and then re-enter the limo to drive smoothly away. Several survivors at two locations insist at least one of the attackers was Caucasian.

The more normal MO of Jihadists is to target big occasions and aim to kill as many as possible. Bataclan and Stade de France fit that, the restaurants don’t. Bataclan was a cockup in that the three blokes remaining there left no escape route, and the SdF caper was an almost complete failure. Their hits are usually accompanied by lectures about not insulting the Prophet or supporting Crusaders and shouts of “Allah Aqbar!” As far as I can establish, nobody remembers any Jihadist yelling at the restaurant attacks.

Equally telling, perhaps, is that while at first I said 11 and the authorities said 7, despite twists, turns and swift positional changes since last Saturday, I’m now saying 13 and they’re saying 9. The number who melted away into the night remains the same: 4.

Over the last three days – and this cannot be considered a full and accurate audit – I have been struck by the recurrent mantra now taking centre-stage: “the scale of the threat”, “the size of the operation”, “the professionalism shown”and so on. As always with Arab fundamentalist sects, the game plan of intelligence agencies seems always to ‘Big Up’ the importance and network of the threat. In fact, the evidence that Al Q’aida represented “a global terrorist threat” was always nonsense…..and I posted earlier in the year my doubts about how IS as it then was leapt from being a rag-tag bunch of squabbling diehards in Syria to being “40,000 strong” in Iraq – in a little over ten weeks…and being called by the ever-present arms envoy John McCain “the most powerful Islamic terrorist on the planet”.

Whether the Daersh lunatics were or were not given help a week ago tonight, the multiplicity and apparently military nature of the op has had the desired effect: at a stroke, Federica Moguedini’s military objectives, EU police surveillance powers, and suspicion about the wisdom of keeping the refugees in Europe have all been given a massive shot in the arm. That outcome is at very best a curate’s egg; in time, I believe it will be used to justify all kinds of State encroachments upon free speech and freedom from 24/7 cameras purely there for our own good.

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20 thoughts on “PARIS ATTACKS: this looks more and more like two teams involved

  1. It does tick all the required boxes. It is said that the French authorities knew in advance of the attack, did another ‘agency’ take advantage of this? Hence the missing 4?

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  2. John

    I’m shocked, but smirking:

    ‘True, having hit the Bataclan, one nutter went off to complain about the food at the Voltaire’. Un petit ‘Spiveyesque’ n’est-ce pas?

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  3. It is a measure of how strong misinformation, misdirection etc are in the UK that when Max Hastings said on QT last night that ‘ISIL did not represent an existential threat like the UK faced in WWII’, that several on the panel disagreed with him strongly.

    As you say in other places, dead people don’t talk, but me thinks that the Blitz was somewhat more of an event, somewhat more longer lasting, than the events of 13/11……..

    I don’t by any means always agree with Mehdi Hasan, but when he said: ‘all the wars and bombing campaigns since 9/11 do not make the UK safer as a place today than it was on 12/9/2001’, I heartily agreed with him. So did the audience. But it wasn’t very PC for the other panel members…….

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  4. Meanwhile back on the reservation,Cameron is using the panic and hysteria of the Paris atrocities to push thru, Parliament a bill to bomb ISIL in Syria. Possibly the public forget that a few months back ,he also tried to push thru’ a bill to bomb Assads troops.
    So now he wishes to assist Assad in his battle against the ISIL rebels. You could not make it up.
    Anyone who strays off the reservation and refuses to go along with this mad dash for an illegal bombing in a Sovereign country is villified.
    According to todays newspapers, Chucklehead Obumna is leading a Blairite faction to attempt to dethrone Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of Labour.
    Jeremy Corbyns grave sin is of course, refusing to go along with this idiotic policy of warfare.
    Obumna of course has Leadership designs and as a Blairite is feeling the cold wind of de- selection blowing blowing around his coffe coloured arse.
    The MSM is heavily complicit in generating this hysteria for war, but then that is their raisin d’etre as mouthpieces of TPTB.

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  5. What we have here is trial by media and the politicians.

    Did the families of 9/11 get a proper investigation? Nope, not by any stretch of the imagination. You only have to look at the families take on C-SPAN as to what they thought of the whitewash.
    Did the families of 7/7 get a proper investigation? still waiting….
    What about the families affected by the Iraqi war crime? You know the ones, the UK families of soldiers lost and tested on and more importantly the families in Iraq, bombed to the dark ages with depleted uranium shells.
    And finally to the families of those murdered in Paris……..they will never have a day in court to get their answers, and in their name Hollande went and bombed someone, somewhere in Syria.

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  6. The Governments are already riding the event’s coattails: In Germany apparently 90% of citizens wish for more police protection:

    http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2015/11/20/ard-umfrage-91-prozent-der-deutschen-wollen-staerker-bewacht-werden/

    and I read in the Telegraph, that EU ministers are discussing today in a crisis meeting the “strengthening of controls” of Bitcoin and precious metals.
    I work for the banks here as a programmer and we’ve been hastily finishing the “Einlagesicherung”. A mailshot is due at the end of this year to the customers to retroactively inform them, that they’ve been officially insured for €100K since July. A peek at the program results makes the eyes water. It is enough to confirm that 90% of the population also has no idea that their bank accounts could be fleeced (there are current accounts with seven figure sums) and the safe deposit boxes blcoked by the very police they are now demanding.

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  7. This is a video purporting to show a woman having a miraculous escape as an ‘attacker’s’ gun jams…It is from the CCTV of a Paris cafe. Observe how the masses of dust and debris appear to be ‘flung’ across the camera lens while none appears to be in the air, landing on tables or people.

    “Chilling video shows Paris attacker trying to shoot woman, gun doesn’t fire”

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/19/world/paris-attacks-cctv-footage-woman-gunman-daily-mail/index.html

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  8. It may be that the PtB: Want create as much confusion as possible..to continue wih the real reason…the replacement and swamping of the indigenous folk of Europe.
    D Day was proceeded with all sorts of bollocks (Muppets dropped with exploding bollocks)!( as reported and ignored by their own coast guards). So what’s a few exploded muzis to the mix? For for our own latter day shit-houses…not bad going eh!

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  9. i am determined not to murder anyone in my lifetime… regardless of whether every so called human being on the planet gets involved or not. I understand that we are given a lifetime to see if we can make the grade as a human being. not whether or not we can murder people. Murder is anti-life. we jail people for incitement of violence but then promote warmongers like blair etc.

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  10. One thing puzzles me (waits for chorus of, “Only one? Dozy old so-and-so” to die down) … in times past the jolly old Tories could be relied upon to fund generously the Thin Blue Line, the better to enforce the unpopular policies which would follow a victorious election as surely as night follows day. Similar for our brave servicemen and women. Always good to have one’s ample botty covered when the populace rise up in protest. But this lot have taken an axe to the funding and provision of even the most basic needs particularly of the police, just when (allegedly) the Islamic hordes are poised to come down on us like the wolf on the fold. There is a logical explanation for all this but even this old cynic shies away from that conclusion. Can anyone help?

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  11. Caratacus. Why have a government funded police force of well-trained and (mostly) intelligent officers, when you can replace them with G4S goons that will do as they are told for peanuts?

    The commercialisation of the police has been on the cards for years, it’s just getting the sheeple to go along with it. Have some major threats, throw in some ‘missed opportunities’, them sprinkle liberally with misinformation, and the sheeple will be beggin to have a barely-literate foreign thug kick their doors in for 50p per hour.

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  12. Any of the authorities with a vested interest are going to “big up” the scale of the problem. During the cold war we were fed stories about the size of Russian forces and their many wonder weapons in order to justify buying lots of new weapons. After the Soviet collapse it became apparent their forces were in a moribund state and nowhere near the threat claimed.

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  13. Tut, tut. One wonders whom it is that they are rtying so hard to emulate ?

    “Naturally the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany.
    That is understood.

    But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy,
    and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship,
    or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.

    All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism
    and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

    – Hermann ‘ze German’ Goering,

    Ah yes. Of course. Sort of obvious really.

    Poor ol’ blighty. Caught between the arsecheeks of two totalitarian, fascist systems.

    Mr John Waed, our good host, got it 100% right in this post :- https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/analysis-the-two-reasons-why-britain-is-doing-everything-wrong/

    Worth remebering. Before you can fix the problem you have to accurately define the problem.

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  14. It looks more like a Gladio-style false flag. These atrocities follow the pattern we have become used to over the last decade or so – of suspects of indeterminate race who were not devout Muslims being used as patsies and then rapidly killed, the fake, planted evidence, the spooks filling the screens and airwaves posing as journalists and experts, the paranoia stirred up by dishonest politicians with their own agenda. Until we have honest politicians and an honest media these atrocities will keep happening, I’m afraid. The shock is pathetic and false, as usual. The politicians baying for war in Syria and the media peddling their lies have blood on their hands, as far as I’m concerned.

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