FROM THE ARCHIVES: the dismal failure of Establishment Labour

While researching something at The Slog today, I came across this post from March 2014. As it happens, this morning I posted brand-new data showing conclusively that new jobs in workless households had merely increased the debt taken on by that household in order to remain viable. Labour had a year to pulverise Camerlot’s lies. It failed miserably.

For those pondering the candidacy of Jeremy Corbyn, I respectfully suggest that this just might tilt you in favour of JC.

WORKLESS HOUSEHOLDS: Cameron’s lies and Labour’s limp response examined in full.

edscamosptnetYou have to hand it to the Prime Minister, he is consistently incorrigible and sloppy. Give him a statistic to big up, and he’ll get it wrong via an injudicious mixture of mendacity and incompetence.

So it was yesterday with the tweet ‘There are 450,000 fewer workless households since 2010 – more families with more financial security. Our #LongTermEconomicPlan is working.’ Just to quickly deconstruct this bollocks,

1. According to the data, there are indeed that many fewer households described as ‘workless’. But to remake the same point yet again, this DWP research is not an audit: it is a self-completion survey, and on such a sensitive issue as being jobless, it will almost certainly understate the real level of the problem.

2. There is a thing called the cohort effect that’s been talked about for years in relation to such studies. An ONS release of August 18th last year refers, pointing out that there are myriad reasons why, at times, the workless home numbers will fall: by no means all of them are economic. It shows, for example. that 65% of these ‘workless’ households have only one parent in them…a reflection of both social and economic issues the Coalition is not addressing at all.

3. The DWP’s statistical output paper itself points out very clearly at 4.7, ‘Monitoring children in workless households may result in a focus on only whether their parents are working or workless, with little attention on other factors such as their earnings levels or the quality of their employment.’ Hold that thought.

4. Now all senior Ministers connected to the main socio-economic departments know perfectly well what is happening to the structure of employment in the UK. That is, security, hours worked, and pay levels are all falling. Osborne insists that real pay is rising but this is because (a) we now use his own bent inflation monitor – which fell off a reality cliff after 2011; and (b) most of the salary rises are at the lower end of the pay scale. If the workforce is feeling flush, than Aldi and Lidl will not see massive gains in market share….and thousands won’t queue for a job paying three-fifths of naff-all at Aldi. That’s common sense, but it’s not on the syllabus at Eton. There’s nothing common about Eton. It’s for special people who don’t like the Common People, you see.

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5. This is the killer nail for Cameron’s tweet: ‘more families with more financial security’ is a lie, pure and simple: if put on the spot, the ONS and the DWP would have to admit it: those families have jobs with almost no security and rock-bottom wage levels offering them (as IDS’s own studies show) less hours of weekly work than they would like to have. But nobody in the Labour leadership is putting the Establishment on the spot. They’re part of it, for crying out loud.

Ed Balls is a Harvard Graduate and this kind of grist is supposed to be right up his boulevard. He did not counter this tweet at any point or on any level yesterday. This was Ed’s last tweet two days ago:

ballsvoiceI sometimes have this vision of the Eds sitting on the sofa of a Saturday night, watching wannabe celebrity crap and then shooting the breeze about whether Mylene Klass is better than Cheryl Cole. They are of course patronisingly cuddling up to what they perceive to be their target audience by tweeting about such drivel, but it’s the very fact of them being rendered braindead by ratings-driven media content that has depoliticised the natural Labour audience: that convinces them, in fact, that fame and money are all that matters.

The Resistance in Britain needs leaders they can look up to, not plonkers who look down on them. The Resistance in Britain – for me at least – is anyone who questions the madness of neoliberalism, defends the rule of law and equality before it, wants to mutualise key services, opposes Globalism, and above all wants to see the bullies lose and the vulnerable protected.

Today in the Telegraph, lifetime Labour supporter Dan Hodges is making the same sort of point. There is a key paragraph in the piece:

‘When John Mann and his colleagues ask Miliband to solve his “presentational” problem they are asking him to do the impossible. People have made up their minds about Ed Miliband; they will not be revising their opinion in the 13 or so months before polling day.’

I agree entirely, I’m afraid. It is the very decency of many in the Labour movement that has ensured, in over a century of the existence of the PLP, that no leader has ever been fired. I think both the Eds should be fired, but then I think Labour as a Party has the wrong instincts these days: there are still too many of Blair’s empty children in it, and far too many of Brown’s humourless spawn as well. The vulnerable in Britain do not need an odd mélange of media-triained pc management jargon and dat ol’ time religion. They need a Party looking for a future in which the bastards haven’t won.

14 thoughts on “FROM THE ARCHIVES: the dismal failure of Establishment Labour

  1. As Labour reflect about which of their carefully thought-out policies contributed to their election defeat, I’d suggest it was more to do with their abysmal performance in opposition. Every week we watched them being walked over and Milliband treated like a first year pupil by the school bully. This shadow cabinet were weak, lazy, inept and failed miserably to show any fight for their cause.

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    BY JOHN WARD AUGUST 20, 2015 DAN HODGES JEREMY CORBYN TWO EDS FAILURE UK HOUSEHOLD DEBT
    While researching something at The Slog today, I came across this post from March 2014. As it happens, this morning I posted brand-new data showing conclusively that new jobs in workless households had merely increased the debt taken on by that household in order to remain viable. Labour had a year to pulverise Camerlot’s lies. It failed miserably.
    For those pondering the candidacy of Jeremy Corbyn, I respectfully suggest that this just might tilt you in favour of JC.
    WORKLESS HOUSEHOLDS: Cameron’s lies and Labour’s limp response examined in full.
    BY JOHN WARD MARCH 25, 2014 DAVID CAMERON ED BALLS ED MILIBAND GEORGE OSBORNE HOUSEHOLDS DO NOT HAVE GREATER SECURITY EDIT
    edscamosptnetYou have to hand it to the Prime Minister, he is consistently incorrigible and sloppy. Give him a statistic to big up, and he’ll get it wrong via an injudicious mixture of mendacity and incompetence.

    So it was yesterday with the tweet ‘There are 450,000 fewer workless households since 2010 – more families with more financial security. Our #LongTermEconomicPlan is working.’ Just to quickly deconstruct this bollocks,

    1. According to the data, there are indeed that many fewer households described as ‘workless’. But to remake the same point yet again, this DWP research is not an audit: it is a self-completion survey, and on such a sensitive issue as being jobless, it will almost certainly understate the real level of the problem.

    2. There is a thing called the cohort effect that’s been talked about for years in relation to such studies. An ONS release of August 18th last year refers, pointing out that there are myriad reasons why, at times, the workless home numbers will fall: by no means all of them are economic. It shows, for example. that 65% of these ‘workless’ households have only one parent in them…a reflection of both social and economic issues the Coalition is not addressing at all.

    3. The DWP’s statistical output paper itself points out very clearly at 4.7, ‘Monitoring children in workless households may result in a focus on only whether their parents are working or workless, with little attention on other factors such as their earnings levels or the quality of their employment.’ Hold that thought.

    4. Now all senior Ministers connected to the main socio-economic departments know perfectly well what is happening to the structure of employment in the UK. That is, security, hours worked, and pay levels are all falling. Osborne insists that real pay is rising but this is because (a) we now use his own bent inflation monitor – which fell off a reality cliff after 2011; and (b) most of the salary rises are at the lower end of the pay scale. If the workforce is feeling flush, than Aldi and Lidl will not see massive gains in market share….and thousands won’t queue for a job paying three-fifths of naff-all at Aldi. That’s common sense, but it’s not on the syllabus at Eton. There’s nothing common about Eton. It’s for special people who don’t like the Common People, you see.

    notwork

    5. This is the killer nail for Cameron’s tweet: ‘more families with more financial security’ is a lie, pure and simple: if put on the spot, the ONS and the DWP would have to admit it: those families have jobs with almost no security and rock-bottom wage levels offering them (as IDS’s own studies show) less hours of weekly work than they would like to have. But nobody in the Labour leadership is putting the Establishment on the spot. They’re part of it, for crying out loud.

    Ed Balls is a Harvard Graduate and this kind of grist is supposed to be right up his boulevard. He did not counter this tweet at any point or on any level yesterday. This was Ed’s last tweet two days ago:

    ballsvoiceI sometimes have this vision of the Eds sitting on the sofa of a Saturday night, watching wannabe celebrity crap and then shooting the breeze about whether Mylene Klass is better than Cheryl Cole. They are of course patronisingly cuddling up to what they perceive to be their target audience by tweeting about such drivel, but it’s the very fact of them being rendered braindead by ratings-driven media content that has depoliticised the natural Labour audience: that convinces them, in fact, that fame and money are all that matters.

    The Resistance in Britain needs leaders they can look up to, not plonkers who look down on them. The Resistance in Britain – for me at least – is anyone who questions the madness of neoliberalism, defends the rule of law and equality before it, wants to mutualise key services, opposes Globalism, and above all wants to see the bullies lose and the vulnerable protected.

    Today in the Telegraph, lifetime Labour supporter Dan Hodges is making the same sort of point. There is a key paragraph in the piece:

    ‘When John Mann and his colleagues ask Miliband to solve his “presentational” problem they are asking him to do the impossible. People have made up their minds about Ed Miliband; they will not be revising their opinion in the 13 or so months before polling day.’

    I agree entirely, I’m afraid. It is the very decency of many in the Labour movement that has ensured, in over a century of the existence of the PLP, that no leader has ever been fired. I think both the Eds should be fired, but then I think Labour as a Party has the wrong instincts these days: there are still too many of Blair’s empty children in it, and far too many of Brown’s humourless spawn as well. The vulnerable in Britain do not need an odd mélange of media-triained pc management jargon and dat ol’ time religion. They need a Party looking for a future in which the bastards haven’t won.

    Earlier at The Slog: How working UK households simply took on more unaffordable debt
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  3. The tories had all labours policies so they could hardly go on the full frontal attack. Labour leadership just playing its part in the political all year round panto!

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  4. @ KJH..In full agreement with you. The duty of a government opposition is to oppose AND to propose viable alternatives which they miserably failed to do…perhaps this explains the why Jeremy Corbyn is proving so popular. There are always alternatives………

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  5. With further reference to DWP the massaged figures re excess deaths are to be released 28th Aug, post parliamentary recess / pre bank holiday. Quelle surprise. Where’s Priti (misnomer!) Patel when duty calls. Is Esther McVey due for a seat in Lords for contriving to lose her seat?

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  6. in this neck of the woods aldi are the best paid hourly rate of all the supermarkets do not know the hours though

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  7. Surely if Labour were to question Camerlot’s lies then, wouldn’t they then be expected to do better? Which, clearly they can’t, for you can’t give a jobless person a job when there is no job to give them. What effectively has happened with zero hours contracts is, to give more people jobs with less hours, it’s a con trick but, there again the whole shooting match is a con trick, hence, no opposition for there is no alternative, there are no jobs for all these people, technology and immigration has put paid to all that.
    The Govt. is just treading water for there is nowhere to swim to, and all parties know that. We are going through a massive change, evolving into a different way of being and we are in the painful throws of change, much of which would not be so painful if the population was in keeping with the resources which, clearly it isn’t. If you were to remove say, 50% of the world’s population we wouldn’t be experiencing the issues we face today. Different ones, yes but, not the ones we have now.

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  8. Re: payday loans…

    Debt for the unlucky poor is often gained by the scam industry that is known as payday loans in the UK

    They are constantly advertising on tv with the arch villain now claiming to be helping people with loans at only 1509%!!

    This down from an astronomical 5800% pa before they were hit with a ‘cost of business’ fine and new regulations.

    I am constantly sickened by the MSM defending them saying that they provide a service and prevent them going to illegal back street lenders, whilst I hate all forms of gouging lenders I did some casual research to find how many of these kneecapping arm breaking lenders had been prosecuted in the past few years, well I could find maybe a dozen cases recorded and retreivable by simple google searches.

    There should be a ceiling on interest rates for consumers IMO of say a max 30% with no hidden add ons.

    Note I personally have had zero personal debt or overdrafts since the mid 70’s but am appalled as to how desperate people must be to believe that they are ‘curing any problem’ by taking out one or more of these instant loans.

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  9. it is strange that Labour don’t fire their leaders when they find out they are unelectable.
    (was Callaghan unelectable, did he get handed PMship by Wilson?) Foot was unelectable, Brown was unelectable, Milli was unelectable. They generally had well over a year to remove the old Boss, and you basically only need 9 months if you are any use at all as a bright, shining new leader. But every time they were given the opportunity, they bottled it.

    I suspect that a large part of the Left don’t want to be contaminated by power, if it means they have to compromise to accommodate the diluted views of others.
    Better to be a perpetual opposition.

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