“A man just hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest”

(Paul Simon lyric)

The eurogroupe is desperate to tell Greeks that tomorrow’s referendum is an In/Out of the eurozone plebiscite. Bild Zeitung thinks it’s about whether Athens should declare war on Germany and gratuitously bankrupt the world. The New York Times insists it’s a vote of confidence or otherwise in Alexis Tsipras. Brussels Parliament Chief Dummkopf Bernhardt Schulz says it’s about whether Communist lunatic dictator monster Tsiprasovitch should be instantly replaced by more knowledgeable technocrats. And Yanis Varoufakis (the swine) is playing the dastardly empirical card by saying it’s about whether Syriza was right or wrong to turn down the eurogroupe terms that have now been taken off the table.

Personally, I’m increasingly of the view that if Greece votes No, Dark Lord Lucifer will arise from the sulphurous depths of his all-powerful domain beneath the ECB, and lead the locust armies to victory over those who would dare to question the hegemony of his personal hairdresser on Earth, Jeroan Dijesslebleom. I could be wrong of course, but I reserve the right to be just as swivel-eyed as the other scarey Eunatics out there.

Further soundings over the last 24 hours suggest to me that a rising number of Greeks have been severely spooked by the bank closure element. These are the folks with whom I have always had the most difficulty: those who bash Dijesslbleom and Varoufakis at the same time. In exasperation, I wind up asking them “So just WTF is it you want?”

And immediately, they rush behind the I Am Greek & Mysterious curtain, yelling “You wouldn’t understand!” I rather suspect I would actually, and my feelings were encapsulated perfectly by a threader who left this at The Slog yesterday:

benthreadYes, quite: how many ‘chattering class’ Syriza voters will stick with their government when the chips are down because the money’s run out? A €210bn question.

There is a huge amount at stake for the human race in this battle, but at base level it is like any other messy divorce. First there is optimistic matrimony, which later turns to acrimony after too much parsimony. There follows an insistence on the need for alimony. And finally, the lawyers benefit from each side’s penchant for sanctimony.

Or – more succinctly – as always, it’s all about the munneeee.

One of two things will emerge from tomorrow’s vote: either a misguided desire to protect personal money; or the clearly stated desire to put mutual social responsibility before greed.



  1. Someone remind me of the number of EU countries that have held a referendum, got the wrong result, and been obliged to vote again.


  2. That’s a number which may increase by one if the UK gets it ‘wrong’ in Cast-Iron Dave’s ‘Please Stay In’ vote next year.


  3. I hope and pray that its a NO, but… I’ve come across too many people in my own life who could talk a good fight…but have been shown to be ‘all mouth and trousers’ when the bell went.

    There will undoubtedly be thousands who will stick with the devil they know. The devil that’s rodgering them up the arse with a big blue and yellow flag pole… But heh…they know him


  4. If the yes vote wins some of the present government have said they will resign. Then I think JW is correct in his assertion that civil war lies ahead because that is surely what will happen.


  5. Eric Rock, English/Greek who lives here in Greece. Thank you JW for supporting the Greek electorate who voted the party SYRIZA to get the country out of Austerity and on the road back to prosperity. For too long the Plutocrats have ruled and it was time for change. Media and unelected governors of the Eurogroup, IMF and ECB are trying to prevent a No vote to continue placing people into poverty and slavery to keep themselves in their own positions. TIME FOR EUROPEAN CHANGE


  6. The outcome is assured. You take the fuel (democracy), combine it with severe compression from the Eurocrap trying to compress it into fascism, and voila, Diesel Boom. Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Poland and Denmark all want democracy abolished. Each of them had it done to them by the Nazi before. Imagine, asking them to come on over, again.


  7. I’ll put my money on ‘Yes’ Mainly because whichever way I look at it, the Greek people want to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds.
    Can’t blame them, who doesn’t want the best of both worlds?
    And, personally I’m beyond GAF…


  8. There will be no civil war because that’s a definite no no for continuing EU membership but, there again the rules are for breaking, as we have time and time again. In fact, let’s be honest, there are no rules any longer..


  9. Not quite sure where you get the “best of both worlds” kfc… :-)

    Would that be the rock and a hard place near the devil and the deep blue sea..


  10. What Greece needs are debt relief, a devalued currency (ie GREXIT) and structural economic reforms (which is BTW the normal IMF recipe). How many of these are demanded by Syriza? Perhaps not even the first, as Syriza would probably accept longer debt maturities and reduced interest rates instead of debt relief, if it meant they were allowed to continue to run a budget deficit. The tragedy is that of the two options that the Greeks are being offered neither is a solution to their problems.


  11. What are the Greek people voting for? As I understand it, from all his recent announcements, Tsipras wants to stay in the euro and eurozone. He called the referendum to give him a bit more leverage in negotiations about the degree of austerity to be endured.
    The deal is anyway off the table. So a Yes vote = rodgering as usual, No = rodgering a little more gently (possibly).

    My money is on a Yes vote partly for reasons already expounded here (holding onto nurse, the spreading of fear etc). This is not to judge the Greek people. We will see what we are made of come the referendum after we too have been sublected to many months of lies and spin.

    Anyway I am hoping the Greek people shoe some heroism as that rodgering – it’s being done to us all.


  12. @Salford Lad. Thank you for posting the link above. Superb stuff. It should be compulsory viewing for every person buying into the “lazy Greeks” meme. It is the direction to gems like this that make me so grateful for the existence of The Slog and the body of knowlege of its erudite commentators.


  13. Truch. Ah yes. Iremember that. Couple of friends of mine had this to say; just a couple of days ago –

    “The truth is incontrovertible.
    Panic may resent it,
    ignorance may deride it,
    malice may distort it,
    but there it is.”
    – Winston Churchill

    Three things can not hide for long: the Moon, the Sun and the Truth.
    – Siddhartha (Buddha)

    “When all the trees have been cut down,
    when all the animals have been hunted,
    when all the waters are polluted,
    when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
    only then will you discover you cannot eat money.”

    – Cree Prophecy

    “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments.”
    – Nikola Tesla


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