EUROBLOWN: Syriza leaps into opinion poll lead as Greek President has talks with the military.

A new poll by VPRC tonight has Syriza as the biggest Greek Party with 30% of voting intentions, followed by New Democracy on 26.5%, while Pasok continues to languish at 12.5%. But there were disturbing reports of military discussions with the caretaker government.

Opinion polls in Greece are about as stable as flies in a hurricane, but there is now a real possibility that the Left in Greece could put together a majority Coalition. With the Democratic Left at 7.5%, and the Communist Party at 5.5%, those together with Syriza would add up to 43%. And Louka Katseli – a former PASOK minister who now leads the small leftist party Social Pact – today threw her weight behind Alexis Tsipras.

If this critical mass can be hyped by Syriza, then Tsipras really could be the next Greek Prime Minister. As he supports the idea of Greece remaining in the eurozone, the markets might well view his accession positively. But whether they do or not, a Syriza victory would be certain to put the moral and commercial onus back onto the Troika.

However, it became clear today that President Karolos Papoulias had received the caretaker government’s Defence Minister Frangos Frangoulis, along with the leadership of the country’s armed forces, for talks at 2.30 p.m. No details of the discussions have as yet come to light, but in an obvious move to make his position clear, Alexis Tsipras visited the Defence Ministry headquarters, where he condemned previous governments for spending excessively on arms – and expressed solidarity with armed forces employees who have seen their salaries and pensions cut due to the Troika austerity measures.

33 thoughts on “EUROBLOWN: Syriza leaps into opinion poll lead as Greek President has talks with the military.

  1. SYRIZA will present its Economic Manifesto on Friday. Previews were
    published today. To me, it is sensational that a party would outline its economic policies (no one has done this before in this year’s campaigns!). Greeks will now know exactly what they will be getting if they vote for SYRIZA.

    What they would be getting is total disaster. SYRIZA has one major theme: more state control over the economy; more nationalizations; reforms are being ignored.

    Again, SYRIZA deserves something like a Nobel Prize for giving Greek voters such a clear choice. By the same token, if Greek voters opt for that choice. they can only blame themselves for it afterwards.

  2. Is voting for any of the others not a disaster? I could never think of a situation where I would vote for the left, unless of course they were the only party not wanting to sell my country to a bunch of E.U. gangsters. Blaming them for not choosing the latter option is pretty one dimensional thinking imo. Damned either way.

  3. Syriza is now claiming the leaked document is not real and they will deliver the real thing tomorrow… everybody loves a circus.

  4. Greek Constitution:
    Article 45
    The President of the Republic is the commander in chief of the Nation’s Armed Forces, the command of which shall be exercised by the Government, as specified by law….

    I think you might also find Article 48 interesting…(too long to be posted in comment):

  5. Democracy itself is the problem; the very idea that the slaves should vote for which parasite will leach off them, which whip they will be beaten with, which poison they will be forced to drink. Its laughable. Fools worship it as a false god, the wise man stays far away…

  6. Tsipras will be one of the first to have been disappeared…

    …as the Military seize control.

    …and them implement the Austerity measures.

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  8. @NM: Should we read the Greek President’s meeting with military chiefs today as a prelude to calling them in if the wrong party wins the election?

  9. They have lots of munition so, perhaps they are thinking on using it up before it passes it’s sell by date. I now fear for Martial Law as the people become more agitated.

  10. Adam Curtis posted a wonderful entry on his blog last november,featuring some fascinating footage from the BBC archives covering events in Greece the last time the country came this close to electing a political party that potentially represented a threat to the ambitions TPTB.Fascinating and well worth a visit.

  11. @Maxi Yes but, given that dictatorship is rarely benign, what is the alternative? That democracy may be a romantic ideal we have to accept but, with all our imperfections, we are social animals and we naturally seek a structure around which to coalesce. The wise man may well stay far away but, as we have reached a point in our evolutionary journey where it is no longer possible to be left in peace, being an ascetic is getting much harder!

    If everybody behaved themselves then we wouldn’t need rules; but what is certain is that those who make them should know how to behave themselves. Currently, they obviously don’t; and their makework self serving expansion, facilitated by the misallocation of capital, burdens us with rules which demonstrate thoroughly unrealistic expectations. But, in any case, our political settlement is no more democratic, in the true sense, than our economic system is (free market) capitalist. Maybe the culprit is not so much democracy as dysfunction.

  12. Don’t think so BT. Very slim chances of that happening. I know the German media spit the guts out about such a scenario, but we’re not in the 60s anymore – we have come way far.
    However, there is some phrasing in Article that worths a closer look. Like
    “…imminent threat against national security…”, “If the Parliament is absent….”, “… issue acts of legislative content to meet emergencies…”.
    The Slog is right pointing that “No details of the discussions have as yet come to light”. The whole thing went almost unnoticed in local media.
    My personal opinion: Presidency worries not of a coup d’etat but that elections of 17th June do not produce a functional government (again).

  13. The Greek Military brass was removed by Papandreou a while ago and stooges put in place… As Greece has a large military comprised by conscription of the youth cannot see how any martial law can be imposed considering they have grown up in their teens watching TPTB desemate their country, hence from speaking to friends and family TBTP must be running scared in Greece and the only thing they have left is to keep the Euro. The fear mongering of going back to the drahma will destroy greece is farcical.

  14. Democracy is not the problem, the leeches are.

    Given that the only choice is, to paraphrase Bill Hicks, between Punch and Judy – you can’t vote the puppeteer out – I too gave up voting a while back.

    It only encourages them, after all ;-)

  15. After the World Class Innovation of Taxing people based on a virtual estimated income, Greece as another world-class tax innovation.

    Introducing New Taxes and back-annotating them from 3 years ago. So a new tax can be introduced in 2012, back-annotated to 2009 and you will have to come up with 3 years worth of new “emergency” taxes…

  16. Disaster ? So to keep on kissing the Troika’s behind would not be a disaster? If he takes away the right of people like Venizelos being immune from prosecution, it’s a start. The corruption can only be cured from the top down.

  17. Rather worrying. Papandreou retired a number of Generals, but of course it wasn’t the Generals who revolted in 1967: they were lower ranks like Colonels. And the Papandreou’s were mixed up in all of that too.

  18. All this blunt statements by Lagarde, Merkel, Shauble et al, do nothing but push Greeks to the radical left. So here’s the voting:
    a) they’re doing it on purpose
    b) they are panicked
    c) they are stupid.
    d) all of the above

  19. @NM:/@DE: OK Thanks. I’m wondering what might happen on the streets of Greece if the 17th June election produces another stalemate and no clear government. Greece could descend into anarchy with a need for someone to maintain order. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

  20. It would be interesting to see how the EU elites dealt with martial law in Greece if such a thing emerged. Given that a country can strictly only be an EU member if it’s run by a democratically elected govt, it would give the elites yet another EU law to ignore when it suited them.

  21. very good point. you have also keep in mind the really active ex-officers (retired military officers who think themselves as a kind of country’s protectors).

  22. KK
    Since you are a banker I would not expect you to say something against your ex bosses.

    Never mind it seems to you that only Hellas has problems and that those who sold out Hellas , now they will save her !!!!

  23. Exactly. Any immoral desastrous position is welcome, as long as we get the promise to return to the lost soviet paradise. This is how nations are wiped out.

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