GREEK ELECTIONS: How the Papademos Government ‘forgot’ to send any tax bills

The real Greek tax bill is lost in the post

On April 18th last, The Slog led with an IMF report inadvertantly showing the draconian new tax measures being set up for after the Greek elections this coming Sunday.

Nobody in the Western MSM went near the story, but the better-informed Greeks have since been voting with their feet by leaving the Pasok and New Democracy Parties in their droves.

Yesterday leading Greek newspaper Ekathimerini healdined with a piece entitled ‘Tax avalanche to follow elections’. This is further bad news  for the pro-Troika Parties, who have been trying to rubbish such reports (ever since the first revelations nearly three weeks ago) with risible talk about ‘unfortunate delays’ and ‘forgetfulness’.

But Ekathimerini this time uses Ministerial leaks to dish the dirt on how calculated the ‘delay’ has been in trying to hoodwink the electors:

‘A top Finance Ministry official told Kathimerini that the delivery of the ETAK slips was put off following an intervention from the higher echelons of the government.

“We were even forced to withdraw all ETAK data from the TAXISnet electronic system in order to prevent people that visited the tax authorities for any other purpose from having to pay their ETAK,” the same official added. (The ETAK is a Single Property Tax still  delayed from 2009.)’

The additional taxes will have to be processed as early as possible in order to meet the Troika’s omnivorous needs. Probably the first tax clearance slips will be sent for income tax payment at the end of July. Those slips will also include the solidarity tax and the profession fee, which this year will soar  by a massive 66% to 500 euros from 300 euros last year.

By then, of course, the eurozone might be in such deep doo-doo, those tax bills will be irrelevant – but don’t hold your breath. Just as pro-EU politicians ban elections, ignore elections, postpone elections, redo elections, and put off tax bills until after elections, they can do precisely the same via Mario Draghi’s increasingly junk-strewn ECB with budgets and bailouts. The problem becomes real only when an election fails to vote in a coalition prepared to go along with this sadistic madness….and this now looks increasingly likely in Greece.

I still can’t grasp what bit of this potential disaster for the eurocrats the MSM doesn’t get. I was accused by a media acquaintance earlier this week of “becoming an anorak about Greek election politics”. Apart from Jeremy Hunt’s lies, Spain’s impending meltdown, and the likelihood of two fingers being stuck up to the EU in Athens come next Monday, I can’t think of anything more apposite to write about.

There is a global misapprehension at large in 2012, and it is this: that knowing the latest news in a 24/7 world means you’re well informed. It does not. A flood of hits comes to The Slog when something sensationally unreported elsewhere comes to light. But the best revelations (yesterday’s post on Jeremy Hunt, for example) get lower hits and attract new readers – who stay long after the news-junkies have left.

Earlier this week I posted a piece about our own ‘leaders’ being completely out of touch on the real effect of falling incomes and rising costs as austerity bites. Precisely the same lesson should be read to the Troikanauts: have they worked out yet that greasing palms on the end of Grecian arms doesn’t butter the parsnips? Does Christine Lagarde know what a pint of milk costs? Does she know which way is up? Does she know the what the capital of Paraguay is?

Footnote: Had a greater degree of Greek debt been forgiven  a year earlier, and Greece evicted from the eurozone, both sides in the affray would now be financially and market-sentiment better off. The Bank of Greece this week forecast a 3% drop in tourism for 2012 (Greece’s biggest earner), whereas if the country went back to the Drachma, holidaymakers would be flooding there in their millions. All such things should be borne in mind (Pound or no Pound) when this sort of nonsense starts to happen here.

Related: Postponing the future in Greece

For more detail on what The Slog is about, go here

66 thoughts on “ GREEK ELECTIONS: How the Papademos Government ‘forgot’ to send any tax bills

  1. As I’ve said many times before those in charge of large amounts of money do not do anything but “Short termism”


  2. Our timing will be perfect… first to get the bailout funding that kept us afloat, first to get 70% debt reduction, first to get a second bailout (soon), first to get public debt forgiven (soon), first to leave a doomed monetary union while everyone else hits the skids, and first to become competitive again by returning to the drachma… SUMMER 2013!!!


  3. Iceland is a great example but Greeks would have gone straight to a civil war with such a sudden and catastrophic fall… we are not so civilized.


  4. I believe a major problem for the Greek people is that whilst they are deeply angry with their corrupt political elites – and with very good reason – a majority still want to remain part of the Eurozone and by extension, the EU. Why that is, is open to debate. Until that issue is resolved, there can be little progress made on sorting out their government and the elites will continue to lie through their teeth.


  5. The only thing we fear more than losing EU membership is reverting back to the snakes pit of old guard assholes that got us here in the first place… if that happens there will be a civil war or military coup followed by a possible war with Turkey. So in the hearts of many people like myself that watched people get shot during the last period of national “instability” (’67-’74) the Troika is not so scary… many people feel it is a choice between German micro management or literally blood in the streets.


  6. I actually don’t think the Euro will survive the next few years so I see a return to the drach coming up…


  7. OT

    I thought I would add this from Edward Hugh an economist working from Barcelona. It kind of sums up his frustration at the attitude of the elites, in respect to Draghi’s visit to Barcelona:

    As can be seen from this blog post, I am not exactly endeared towards the ECB at the moment, especially after their latest frolic in Barcelona. It is hard not to have the feeling that more attention wasn’t paid to the (perceived or imagined) security concerns of a priviledged elite than to the real needs of the Spanish economy. It is simply trite to say “economic growth is compatible with fiscal austerity” as Mario Draghi did, without spelling out exactly how. It sounds like saying you CAN have your cake and eat it.

    When will the ECB finally own up, and accept their part in laying the basis for the economic shambles we have in Spain?

    But not only are they shamefaced, they have no sense of shame, ostentatiously demonstrating their power and wealth through suppers in the Pedralbes Palace, and sleeping in the luxury Hotel Arts. A striking contrast with the much more modest behaviour of Italian leader Mario Monte, who at least can recognise that you cannot vulgarly show off the fact that you are extravagantly spending the money of those from whom you have come to demand one sacrificed after another.

    All the average Barcelona citizen saw of the event where the front page photos of the snipers on the rooves, and the constant and ominous whirring of the helicopters overhead. At one point during the day I was interviewed by some Brazilian freelance journalists working for Chinese television. As we had to keep stopping the interview due to the racket the choppers were making, I wryly observed, “this reminds me of a scene from a Brazilian film”. “Yes”, they said in unision, “Tropa d’Elite”. Gosh, I do hope that is not where we are headed in Spain, as the crisis drags on and on, and popular frustration grows and grows. There is no sign of the long awaited mass revolt, but there is plenty of evidence of the appetite of those in power to flex their muscle and authority.

    Far from wasting their precious and limited shoe leather hunking up and down the streets of Spain’s cities, the educated and qualified young are increasingly voting with their feet and leaving the country, complete with that mountain of unsold homes, far behind them. As I said in the TV interview, the politicians should be thanking the ones who stay and protest. At least they haven’t thrown the towel in (yet).

    My day closed back home in the safety and security of my village, with a phone call from a financial journalist on one of the Barcelona dailies. “Would you say there was any kind of message for the future from Mario Draghi for the Spanish people”, came the voice across the airwaves. “Nope”, I said, “the message was there is no message”. “Gotcha”, he said, and hung up. I think it was just the line he was looking for


  8. we here,know already the euro is a dead issue.But it won’t be the old drachma,a system,my friend.It won’t survive either.We will be introduced to a new currency.
    Most prediction talk of a euro collapse in autumn.I think that it will be defined from the french & the greek elections outcome on the same day.Anyway everything shows the euro illusion is over.


  9. All this is fine, and no doubt many Greeks will protest at having to pay (some) taxes, but a country with only the PAYE people paying anything does have to make some changes. In practice that means the state employees, though we are not setting a great example there by allowing our top civil servants to avoid tax by setting up companies. Oh, dear…


  10. @Jon:
    I’m sure that’s how many people outside Greece see it.

    But you haven’t got rid of the political snake pit have you.

    Here’s a solution. All actions planned for the same day:
    2. tell the EZ/EU to go f*ck itself.
    3. revert to your own currency.
    4. do a deal with the US to harvest your fossil fuel/mineral reserves on
    a fair-share basis in return for US protection against Turkey invading. a lot to improve tourism and exports.


  11. In the little corner of Spain that I intermittently inhabit, things are definitely tough. Tourism, for 50 years the mainstay, is well down and restaurants are offering ‘austerity dinners’, or, to be honest, the same bottom of the menu items as before with a 5% price cut. There is a notable absence of wealthy UK tourists, and only those on lower incomes and benefits now seem to be here, eking out an existence in the cafés while competing with the locals for maintenance and painting work. Construction, the whole juicy basis of the last decade or more’s existence has stopped, and not only because there are no buyers, though that would be enough. The Junta de Andalucía has decided that no more construction will be permitted in this part of the countryside for the moment, so that’s that. And the same Junta people are back in power again, a coalition of the left.

    So what happens next? I think you are right, those who can leave will leave. Probably they had to anyhow. However, many young people were seduced by the rich pickings of the last decade and failed to get an education, thinking that their very large incomes would go on for ever. Those who cannot leave will stay and manage on a thin mixture of state unemployment handouts (minimal), help from the family and working for cash (standard practice in any case).

    I don’t know the answer for Spain (nor do the Spaniards) but one thing is clear: reverting to mass house building is not an option. It’s going to be a long trek via education, investment and high added-value exporting.


  12. “Tropa de Elite”, not “Tropa d’Elite”.
    Brazilian Portuguese does not use the language context of ” d’ “.


  13. @BT,

    I, wholeheartedly second that.
    I was accused of being unpatriotic, when three+ years ago, I was advocating sticking it to EU and it’s BS.


  14. Very interesting development. Messrs. Cameron, Osborne and Hunt will be kitting themselves out with thick, brown, worsted trousers to wear when giving their evidence.


  15. Agreed, but it’s never to late. There is a need to bring people into reality from their zombie state.


  16. Euro created a huge bubble in the Greek economy. Greeks don’t understand it, their politicians are not telling them.

    Greece went on a spending spree at 2002-2004 for the Olympics. The day the Olympics were over Greece desperately needed a devaluation, but it was impossible. Greece that year had an amazing 4%-5% growth. It was the perfect time to slowdown and prevent overheating.

    But that didn’t happen. The stupid government continued to borrow and increase public salaries to the point they were almost double the Private sectors. This causes additional inflation and the private sectors starts to suffer. The euro is heading for 1.60 USD and the private sector is really suffering from outrageously overvalued euro for the Greek economy.

    The conservative government is pumping even more state jobs through a scheme called “stage”. In 2008 the private sector is entering a recession and they try to hide it… The Greek economy is already fatally wounded. Then the global financial crisis breaks out and Greece is already doomed.

    It is now 2009 and the situation in Greece goes unnoticed by the credit crunch. Now the government blatantly manipulates statistics. The government knows what is going to happen calls early elections and jumps the ship. The new socialist government is taken by surprise and does everything wrong. In 2010 they enter the IMF/ECB/EU programme, but they are still clueless

    It is now 2011 and it is obvious the situation is off-track, hence the PSI.

    In my opinion, they didn’t want to add a numismatic crisis on top of the debt crisis, so they decided to stay in the euro.
    However, should Greece never entered the euro, things would be in a much much better shape.
    Should Greece exited the euro in 2010, Things would be even worse for a bit, but in 2012 recovery would be in sight.

    The handling of the crisis both from Greeks but also from IMF/EU/ECB will go down in history as a worst case example of what not to do. An entire country is obliterated, a whole generation will suffer and at the time of writing this there is no light at the end of the tunnel.


  17. Pingback: John Ward – Greek Elections : How The Papdemos Government ‘Forgot’ To Send Any Tax Bills – 4 May 2012 | Lucas 2012 Infos

  18. It’s not a one-way street.

    When someone is paid as a self-employed contractor, the employer does not have to pay Employers’ NI, nor pension contributions, nor sick-pay, nor holiday-pay, nor maternity-leave, nor redundancy payments, nor company cars, nor corporate credit-card expenses etc. Those ‘staff’ are also liable to dismissal without notice or compensation at any time without risk of tribunals. Taken together, that lot can represent a substantial saving for the employer – in these cases, the government could actually be saving real money by employing people this way, despite the nominal loss of tax receipts.

    True, the contract-staffer has done his/her own calculation and figured it was the best route, nominally reducing their personal direct tax payments. But look behind the tabloid headlines and it’s not all one-sided – it can be a case where everybody wins.


  19. Jacob, you completelty underestimate the Greek political elite. They understood that joining the EU would give them a chance to loot on an undreamt of scale and maufactured their entry, with a little help from Goldman Sachs and some rubbery statistics.
    The EC committee knew what they were upto and turned a blind eye as there were more important issues at stake and anyway, Greek was a tiny addition to the EU state.
    Now, the same group are trying to wring the last bit of wealth from the EU coffers before the music stops and then they will tell their people that it was all the fault of the EU. Unfortunately, their people will gladly accept this explanation as to do otherwise would be to admit that they were implicit in the looting.
    If you believe that this is a harsh comment, I defend myself with the comment that I have seen no substantial reaction from the Greek populace questioning how this situation came about but they are deadly scared to leave the Euro. The truth is quite clear but it is so much easier to believe the lie.


  20. Uhhh… actually the Goldman deal was done AFTER Greece joined the Euro… a 2 second search on Google can help you straighten that out.

    “An error very frequently made in press reports[which?] is the confusion of the discussion regarding Greece’s Eurozone entry with the controversy regarding usage of derivatives’ deals with U.S. Banks by Greece and other Eurozone countries to artificially reduce their reported budget deficits. A currency swap arranged with Goldman Sachs allowed Greece to “hide” $1 billion of debt, however, this affected deficit values after 2001 (when Greece had already been admitted into the Eurozone) and is not related to Greece’s Eurozone entry.”


  21. ” It is ironic that nowadays eurozone countries use the delivery method, which would have produced a budget deficit below 3 percent for Greece in 1999, according to a person with good knowledge of this issue.

    Moreover, France, with a budget deficit of 3.31 percent of GDP, Spain, with a deficit equal to 3.37 percent of GDP, and Portugal, with a 3.38 percent of GDP deficit in 1997, their evaluation year, also violated the treaty, according to the AMECO database of the European Commission. (DG ECFIN).

    Even Germany, whose budget deficit stood at 2.64 percent of GDP in 1997, may have violated the treaty if unification-related debt and assets assumed by the federal government in 1997 equal to 116.3 billion euros were included.”


  22. Duh.
    Subies can be got rid off,mandarin’s not so much.
    Back when I was in the UK ,when the Inland Revenue
    collected taxes,there was a rule about source of income.
    More than 80% from one source,and you were an
    employee.Who changed that rule ?


  23. Do not use Wiki as a source
    It is the forerunner of the Ministry of Truth.
    CIA funded and owned.
    Constant “corrections”of history.


  24. Jacob , re your last paragraph , seems like Mr Junker will disagree with you .”In retrospect , historians would confirm that those in charge reacted improbably quickly and improbably cleverly ” he said just two days ago .
    Looks like the sense of humor appears more generously in some members of our species .


  25. Thanks for the reference John but I would not use Wiki as a pristine source. Anyway, the swap transactions were only one of a series of innovations that Goldman sachs sold the Greek Government to help their figures. Zero coupon interest rate swaps to deliver present value euros on receivables comes to mind, with the present value amount treated as income…hmmmm…probably delivered a healthy bonus that one!


  26. Pingback: GREEK ELECTIONS: How the Papademos Government ‘forgot’ to send any tax bills - Alternative News London Ontario - News, sports, entertainment, business, travel, homes and auto sections containing features of interest in North America

  27. Pingback: How the Papademos Government ‘forgot’ to send any tax bills | Machholz's Blog

  28. These elections are so pointless.
    In Greece it’s a coalition of nonsense, lasting ten minutes before it breaks down.
    In France, neither candidate has the solution to the future.
    In Britain, it’s one or the other – and now ( 3 years after bankrupting the country) the other are back in favour.
    The politicians have CONTEMPT for the voters because the voters have such short memories and are so STUPID


  29. O/T Go short Socgen,balance sheet shot to pieces by Italy and Greece,and now M.Hollande is about to ruin what is left of the private sector in France.


  30. Harold,

    I moved to Greece from the UK back in 2001. I can tell you that the economy was in much much better shape back then. Even if Greece didn’t meet the criteria, that was by a small margin and definitely fixable.

    Things went pair-shape after joining the euro. There was too much liquidity, interest rates were wrong and the initial eur/usd exchange rate was wrong.

    I do not underestimate Greek politicians. With few exceptions, most of them are populist scumbags . The quality of public debate is exceptionally low. They keep telling people lies and make false promises.
    Their integrity is low, their IQ level well below average and their understanding of markets and economics non-existant.

    There 1-2 sensible parties (Drassi, DimiourgiaXana etc) but due to fragmentation and people’s addiction to lies they are nowhere near to win enough votes to make a difference.

    I really do not see how can Greece stay in the Eurozone. The economy is in freefall, they in a desperate need of a devaluation and the internal devaluation cannot do the trick without most of the population defaulting on their mortgages and loosing their houses.

    I am not very optimistic about Greece… and unfortunately I see other EZ countries having similar problems, but their condition still seems “saveable”.


  31. John,
    To change the subject somewhat, I think you should have a donation button on the Slog. You must be putting in at least 8 to 10 hours a day doing research and sending out reports. It must be having an impact on your social life. I know that probably goes against the grain, but I really feel you should be getting something back for the very important service your providing. Failing that, why not do a book review once or twice a week with an Amazon link. Well that’s my view any way.


  32. The Euro ,the pound, and the dollar will all survive its just the debt part that wont as its going to be zero,d real soon.
    Debt is their weapon and their about to be disarmed.


  33. “Greece’s debt managers agreed a huge deal with the savvy bankers of US investment bank Goldman Sachs at the start of 2002″… Spiegel.De

    “Greece joins eurozone”
    Monday, 1 January, 2001, 09:02 GMT … BBC News


  34. One thing that is often forgotten is the level of EU subsidies enjoyed by Greece etc. Not just the good old CAP, but the Regional Development Fund. Both are rather significant. The latter was supposed to help poorer countries develop towards the EU mean, but in truth much of the cash ‘vaporised’ and wandered off towards Zurich. I think this is an important reason why Greece, Spain, Portugal and so on tend to cling onto the idea of the Euro notwithstanding its other disadvantages. That, and the ‘belonging to a rich man’s club’ thing.


  35. Death of the mother of Democracy.
    Greece was born about 3000 years BC and now is dying May 6th 2012 by the bloody hands of Greek traitors ordered by their Masters, the New World Order and the Fourth Reich. Greece will be born again once we wash the Greek soil with the blood of all political traitors and get rid of all foreign interference. The Peoples Republic of Greece will soon rise and may God have mercy for who stands in our way.


  36. Iain , there is an old MI6 joke that there are two countries that they couldn’t operate properly , Japan because no one talks at all and Greece because everybody talks too much . Thats how we are . We have a lot to say and we need to communicate it , that’s why we spread our civilisation and the chinese kept it to themselves . We live cyclothymicly ( and i am not referring to John here ) between elation – when things go our way – and depression – when reality let us down .Exaggeration isn’t just our national fault is our way of living , is the reason behind all our miseries but behind our glory as well .We fight and disagree about everything , the ” greek Parkinson’s law” : two greeks do it in two hours ( because we fight ) one greek does it in one hour . We are different and with no other country as a relative ( as the most countries have ) .We are insecure in our differentiality , we want to belong somewhere and we always look for guardians and sponsors . We want to become ancient greeks again , we want to be tall ,blonde with Praxiteli’s Hermes greek nose and we hate that we look like our neighbours .We had the chance to become europeans and seems like we messed it up .We know was not entirely our fault but we are afraid to accept our responsibilities too , we are experts in creating myths , we live between our myths and our fears , our ancient ancestors had ideas and applied them and lived by them , we have ideas and theories just to excuse our mistakes . We are different , we deny reality , we live beyond our means , we promise double what we can do and we feel ten times bigger our emotions and that ruins us but made us heroes too .Again i am not referring to John – i am sure he will answer to u soon – just as you said that he posts too much , thought to tell you few things about us , other than what is recently known about our finance ( yes , i know i said too much ) .


  37. @John Provotas, I am not sure whether you are in the ‘business’ or not. If not, I can understand why you would accept that Greece joining the Euro on 1st Jan 2001 and executing the swap at the start of 2002 may appear as if the Goldman Sachs deal was cobbled together in a month or so.
    Please be aware that the sourcing solutions, planning of these transactions, identifying and resolving issues and agreeing documentation takes in excess of 12 months from start to finish.
    The head of the Bank of Greece ( who is currently the Prime Miinister) is a smart man. He was well aware of the challenges that Greece would face including increased scrutiny of the country’s statistics, so planning to cover them up must have started even before 1st January 2001. As I have stated above, getting to execution stage for such a transaction would require 12 months, hence my previous comment.


  38. Jacob,
    I agree with your synopsis. The Greek eceonomy and people were attuned to an economy of high inflation and interest rates as well as a depreciating currency to offset the economic mismanagement of the country.
    To remove the safety valves and chuck more petrol on the bonfire ( in the form of a significant decline in interest rates and cash flowing in from the Eurozone) withouting fixing the structural problems, was a clear recipe for the disaster that we have today
    Alas we are in completely uncharted waters now with the the only certainty of increasing misery not only for Greece, but throughout the Eurozone.


  39. All the work for joining the Euro was also done well in advance of Jan.1 2001, many years in advance… that was simply a symbolic date for the transaction to have been announced.


  40. This is semantics at it’s best… if you want to add that Germany, Italy, and many others also engaged in these types of legal swaps, and that many of them were also over the 3%GDP per Maastricht rules than you must understand that most every country in Europe “cheated” to get into the EU… many people in the “business” as you call it have acknowledged that the fault for wherte the Euro is today does not lie with the “periphery” but with the example set by Germany, France, and the other major economies… Greece’s miniscule role in the economy of the EU is not why the economy of the EU was in the pathetic, and easily destabilized position it was when the crisis hit… the truth is, everybody broke the rules, Eurostat and the Germans knew it, but could not call the smaller players out for engaging in the same behaviour they were engaged in at the same time… blaming Greece is an easy way out of taking a long hard look at the responsibility that ALL of Europe has for the weakness of it’s financial structure… but please, engage all you like in the fairytales teh MSM have spun for you to be able to point a finger and pretend that the blame does not include yourself. Why people still believe all the crap that the MSM is spewing I don’t understand.


  41. @Στυλιανό,
    I tend to agree with what you wrote, except for one fact:
    The Greek history has at least 10000years. Although, mainstream “science” resists to accept this fact, just like the Greek character Minoan civilization (3000BC?), Trojan war (1200BC), it will be eventually accepted.
    Here is one small example of Greek writing from 7000BC, which throws all the baloney about Greeks invading their lands about 3000BC, and borrowing their alphabet from Phenicians out the window:


  42. John Provatas,
    What you have stated is absolutely true. Germany and France both broke the rules early in the game the problem is that they had stronger economies to withstand the pressures that belongning to the Euro placed on them, though France to a lesser extent.
    Greece was not ready to join the Euro and did not have the economic strength to withstand the rigours of maintaining competitiveness with the stronger core of the Eurozone. Add to that the fact that it is a small part of the Eurozone economy and you have the recipe for diktat.
    If Greece had broken the rules, been a significant chunk of the Eurozone economy and had the wealth reserves of Germany or France this discussion would not be happening today.
    By the way, the reason I read JW’s blog is because I do not believe in the MSM crap as you put it and I have a pretty good idea of the world of International and Corprate Banking having worked in it for nigh on 17 years.


  43. Well… I appreciate your admitting that what I said was absolutely true. Also, I agree that because Greece is a small “partner” of the EU it’s financial tricks are being over emphasized by members that engaged in the same type (albeit on a much larger, more damaging level) of abuses, while those country’s indiscretions (that have far more to do with the Euro’s dubious future) are being dutily glossed over by their citizens. I also agree that Greece was not ready to join the Euro… nor were many other country’s that are already in, and also awaiting their membership. I simply believe that Greece is being conveniently scapegoated to give the masses a simple focal point while even greater abuses of fiscal, and political power are being hidden or perpetrated. In my 20 years of working as a lobbyist, and as a fundraiser for political party’s and private interest groups (mostly financial services) in America, I learned that the really important news is almost never actually being reported. I am recently retired.


  44. Tony, you are right I misquoted the figure of 5000, it should be at least 10000. Because of my disgust and upsetness towards the corrupt Greek political system I was not thinking properly. Sorry and thanks for the enlightening.


Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s