Germans, Greeks, Plato, and Bankrolled Taxidriver

Don’t ask people to vote about something they don’t understand. And don’t ask for any help from a large organisation.

Normal service sort of resumes now. Not that much in today’s world could be described as normal. Not that much about today’s virtual world shows any real signs of service.

In a normal world, people would get worried when senior politicians say something unthinking…for example, “While I think we would be happy to give the Greeks more time, the German people wouldn’t”. I heard this remark from a senior CDU pol on The World Service, a 1970s transistor being the only technology that functions where I am based.

As it was, the statement passed on through the crowded ether, without too many people wondering:

  1. Exactly what model of democracy is it that your have in Germany?
  2. How do you know what they think until you let them vote about it? And
  3. Why on Earth would they make the right decision on such a complex issue?

That last is the killer question for me. The Merkeschäuble has dissembled, hidden and spun reality so much since 2010, aside from a few hacks in Berlin and bankers in Frankfurt, the average German hasn’t a clue about the real cost, consequences, political ramifications or hidden considerations that might come to light were either Greece or German (or both) to leave the euro. Only when politicians want to do the Pontius Pilate thing do they ask the befuddled, uninformed and largely apathetic populace to take a bad decision for them.

Until then, Angela Merkel will keep on leaping from the bathwater just like Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. Not a nice thought.

Plato said that the basis of liberty was an informed, intelligent electorate. I think he was right on the money, and had he added “plus genuine equality before the law” then I’d be calling myself Platonic these days. The trouble is, I’m too emotionally charged to be platonic, and anyway the tricky part of any free society is getting an oligarchic electorate without ending up with inequality before the law.

Ours being an abnormal world in the West, we have ‘universal’ suffrage (we don’t actually, but park that one for now) and we have an oligarchy of minute size and zero accountability and we have inequality before the law. That is, we have the full set required for mob rule manipulated by psychos – demo(s)cracy – that Plato feared so much. When you get down to it, Greece is not the cradle of democracy: it’s the cradle of common-sense, governance based on making as many people content as you can reasonably expect in an imperfect world.

Anyway, my nose – yes, really, it does – smells that Geli will say “Nein” to Antonis, and then some kind of euro-plebiscite will be called, and the plebs will be told to vote Guilty.

They will be told what to vote via the one region that didn’t exist in Plato’s time: mass, 24/7, global physical and virtual media, most of which are either in the hands of unelected malign oligarchs….or bloggers and closely associated internet philosophers – the Wilderness Voices if you like. There are no prizes for guessing who’s going to win that one. I’ve tried many times to get mutual assoications started in the blogosphere, but the interest just isn’t there. Too many egos, probably.

This abnormal world is also, as it happens, one in which ISPs offering broadband swear faithlessly that they will provide top-speed connectivity by 2011, yet by the Autumn of 2012 still can’t get within sight of that goal. But somebody I’m trying to help at the moment has had full-package Sky for years, so to improve his Broadband it seemed a bit of a no-brainer to go there first.

The website yelled “3 EASY STEPS TO CONTACTING US!” This somewhat contradictory claim (how about one easy step – the phone?) missed out the 15 web pages I’d had to search to get to there, but never mind that: let’s not be picky. My host was then asked endless security questions, and the phone was handed back to me. I listened impatiently as the robot at the other end told me how hard it would be to judge the signal we’d get (postcode no good then?) how difficult it was to get BT Outreach to fix an installation date, and finally how he’d get back to us with more details before the end of the day but nothing could be started for three weeks.

I’ve found this BT (apparent monopoly?) problem elsewhere, but it could be, of course, that Newscorp, Orange and the rest of the rippers-off simply use Outreach as a suitable animal to beat. The issue as always with privatisations handled by civil servants is that there is nowhere for the buck to stop: it just keeps on going round in circles. The same is true of rail travel and the same is true of energy. We have merely swapped one customer-blind setup for another.

Anyway, the day shaped up to be yet another one of Brazilian mania at The Slog. By now, I was amusing myself with alternatives to Bankrupt Taxpayer (Bankrolled Taxi-driver being the best I could manage) and then the image of Glenn Close emerging from beneath the bathwater came to me again. What was I to do about the Trollswarm?

I tried to contact my site supplier WordPress. They’re nice folks on the whole, but the software is skatty, and the service – as with anything on the Web – a joke. OK, it’s free – and seems to be ethical by today’s standards. But if yesterday’s experience is anything to go by, then once again there is no accountability….and above all, no way you will ever get to talk to someone.

‘Contacting’ WordPress means going through three sets of FAQs, not getting any answers, and then being referred to ‘the Forum Community’. All pretty risible really.

But then a Fairy Godfather appeared. Let’s see what happens next.

Still unable to get online with any reliability, I drove elsewhere – a tricky operation for all kinds of reasons too numerous to mention here – where a chum took me to a local small shop run by two young blokes. So helpful in manner, sound of advice, and fair in charging were they, I immediately asked them to order me a new laptop battery, and fix my very ill Netbook. I’ll probably also ask them to look at my host’s broadband problem, because these guys have a simple positioning: rather than you sod about for hours with global suppliers (who prefer declaring dividends to shareholders than looking after their customers) we’ll move in where they’ve moved out.

Don’t dismiss this as a sample-of-one anecdote: the shop is frantically busy 24/7, and they’re already – after a month – looking for new premises and staff to train. The same is true in my Devon Community, in South West France….in fact, wherever you look. Ulitmately, power does not come from a ‘global reach’ that never involves anything worthwhile for the buyer, it comes from loyal customers. This is where UK manufacturers got it wrong in the 1970s: they thought multiple retailers and shareholders were more important than branded reasons to prefer. In the future, the grip of globalists will be loosened by those helping people at the coalface – not saying ‘Help’ in a panel, and then saying “Your enquiry showed 0 results”. Those who ultimately buy, use and judge will always be more important than ‘stakeholders’. It’s one of the many things that neocon corporate accountants never grasp.

Anyway BT and friends, enjoy life in the newly created Eternal Comments Pending File. And if a genuine Slogger spots a piranha that ate his way through the Krypton, make me alert. I need lerts. Only lerts can kill Trolls for ever and ever, Amen.

The Slog goes on.

49 thoughts on “Germans, Greeks, Plato, and Bankrolled Taxidriver

      • The BBC stopped all comments on their Scottish bloggs, they were loosing the arguments. Some of the reasons for curtailing comment were truly sublime.
        Welcome back John.

  1. Welcome back…you were missed. My main read the DT is increasingly annoying in that much seems to be written to order.
    Even the comments are crowded out by trolls with an agenda. When Assange was being discussed it all got a bit silly.
    Anyway welcome back again…keep yer chin up!

  2. There seems to be an ongoing debate about what does and doesn’t constitute rape. Sweden has particularly draconian laws in this regard. I once enjoyed very rigorous intercourse with a swedish lady – fortunately this was not on her native soil…

    simerlarly on this issue of consent, I once had an experience with an angelic virginal young lady (not swedish – but british from a noble family), a pure and inocent creature who came back to my appartment one fateful night…

    I took a look at her and told her I lusted for her body.

    She replied, “Look I just met you…and…well…Daddy wouldn’t approve”

    I strode accross the room like a bull towards a red flag, only carmer, still in control…

    Well, what I subjected this young creature to was so sadistic, so vile, such pure humiliation, so debassing, utterly satatnic, that no one, no gutter creature, could have any lingering doubts that all inocence was now well and truely lost – she would never again see the world through those clear pure cherub eyes, now she would see the world with the curtain removed, a world of horror, disgusting urges needed to be satisfied, a world of murder…

    afterwards I lit a cigarette; she was redressing, slowly, her head bowed…I walked with her to the door. Suddenly she turned and with a desparing plea in her eyes she said pleadingly, “When can I see you again!?”

    …so my point is, judges, juries, and social moralists have no right to interfere in what is a natural and yes essential process in some peoples lives. And too hell with sweden, I say, if any of their women want to experince what I have for them, they’ll have to meet me on foreign soil…

      • Although Gorgie Georgie Porgie is well worth listening to on many issues. He does go to that line and cross it. I’m not sure why, it maybe his self loving,self adoration,along with being an attention Junkie. I suspect that he is a ‘Career Politician’ and although he does give the impression he cares, the truth is he is a mouth piece and wouldn’t swap his life style for a job diggin dirt with the ‘poor’ farmers.(Just call ita hunch) His take on rape was his wee joke.. wasn’t it? I mean guys , you think it is OK to have sex with a woman who is unconcious? aw surely we have to address this with the other blokey triades about ‘rem single muthers’ perhaps this is the reason we have so many single mothers?. My body belongs to me I decide what goes inside me and YES PORGIE I do want to have a say in every ‘entry’. What a total rag hag of men who can’t perform whilst the woman is notibly engaging,encouraging her consenual partner in an intimate act. Say’s a lot about men and their insecurities, that is why women are now sitting laughing in the face of the male species and their attempt to ‘satisfy a non moving object! Non consensual sex is RAPE.. no if’s -no buts -no maybes!

      • @MBH – I guess you have a contract all written up and ready for the guys in your life to sign – before they commit the heineous act of pleasuring you :)
        Why do you not consider that you should have to gain consent before wrapping your body around a mans penis in order to obtain pleasure from them ?
        Its an adult world love – and demanding the state look after your poor defenceless little self rather than taking a bit of responsibility (as you demand from men) might allow you to join in without the female hand up you seem to think is so righteously deserved.

        I’m afraid my pet hate is the idiot feminists (little victim me girlies) – they do more damage in society than they have the ability to comprehend :)

      • Many a consenting woman has fallen to sleep while I’ve been ‘pleasuring’ them – did I become a rapist in their dreams or a lousy lover in my nightmare?

        There’s more than 50 shades of grey between guilt and innocence.

      • @maxi: I’m not Swedish, I’m not a woman, I’m not gay but I am so curious about what sort of depravity you’re capable of that I’m willing to meet you in Fife tomorrow at midday to find out.

        You will recognise me by the fact that I’ll be wearing a pair of red Y-fronts and a stick-on Swedish moustache.

  3. I got hold of wordpress once to get something fixed on my blog, they came back pretty smartly with a solution, can’t remember how I got hold of them though. You should see my conversation with the search engine Opera about trying to disable and close the account. Seems they have no idea who I am and have no record of me, some search engine. This not a “don’t you know who I am?” thing, it’s just that you would have thought a quick look in their user database might solve locating me but it seems I have to tell them all sorts of stuff I can’t remember and they should know!

    As for Greece, haven’t they been having last chances for years now? I’m more inclined to think Israel are more serious about last chancing Iran. I was wondering what would be on the telly after the OIympics. I’m thinking some news from the middle east might become prevalent before much longer. Or I could always watch the paralympics. I think I’ll go on holiday instead and hope that big volcano in Iceland blows up so I have to stay there.

    Trolls live under bridges feasting on Billy Goats, everyone knows that!

  4. I second the view about ISPs- talktalk utterly utterly useless for any kind of inquiry or problem. I have had massive problems with the “service” in trying to get an internet signal that is even vaguely reliable, and all communications go via the other side of the world to people who , though mostly kind and trying to help, are so ill-trained and poorly equipped in understanding English idiom, they cannot do anything other than give you a long list of possible reasons why your system isn’t working, right down to the weather. Worst of all the exact same procedure has to be gone through every time you contact them, almost word for word , none of it relevant. I got so angry I said I was looking at other suppliers, and suddenly they reduced my bill to almost nothing for the rest of the contract- not complaining about that, but of course it does make it more difficult to complain about the service!! They were also very quick to blame BT for everything.
    On the other subject, good to have you back in charge- hopefully the noxious morons/dislikers of free speech/government agents who have been so busy doing nothing here will be expunged . Power to your elbow!

    • I have had similar issues. Rural broadband in a ‘market 1′ exchange is frankly a waste of time at peak hours. BT simply won’t spend the cash to install the required capacity, though they seem to find charging less bothersome. Other countries manage this far better. Why are we always so bad at this sort of thing?

  5. JW – a comment on your thoughts about how, if they could, Germans would vote. You write:

    Exactly what model of democracy is it that your have in Germany?
    How do you know what they think until you let them vote about it? And
    Why on Earth would they make the right decision on such a complex issue?

    That last is the killer question for me. The Merkeschäuble has dissembled, hidden and spun reality so much since 2010, aside from a few hacks in Berlin and bankers in Frankfurt, the average German hasn’t a clue about the real cost, consequences, political ramifications or hidden considerations that might come to light were either Greece or German (or both) to leave the euro. Only when politicians want to do the Pontius Pilate thing do they ask the befuddled, uninformed and largely apathetic populace to take a bad decision for them.

    What kind of “democracy” in Germany? Very similar to that in the UK but with a consensus (unlike the UK) on a social safety net – while the money lasts.

    You ask (for you the killer question) – why would they make the right decisions on such a complex issue? No, JW, this is NOT the killer question. Actually, the killer questions is this:
    “How would you phrase the eurozone question in order to get a meaningful answer in a referendum?”

    • Yeah I have to agree. How the hell do you get the unvarnished, unspun information out there in a manner digestible to the masses? what is unvarnished, unspun information and how would we recognise it?

      We face the same problem with the EU referendum when/if it comes. I believe they will not give us a simple yes/no but seek to divide the vote further by adding in a third oprion which will be designed to suck in the waverers. This will obviously mean that they can spin the finished plebicite in whichever direction they want.

      So crapola no matter what happens the bastards win having asked the plebs. Who say democracy is the best system?

    • Author’s Preface
      In July 2011, a calm and studious risk-assessment analyst working for the South Yorkshire Police was summarily fired. He had filed a report with his superiors which openly contradicted the official narrative compiled by the British authorities to explain the 7/7 London Transport bombings. Tony Farrell’s allotted task was to assess the degree of risk posed by terrorism. Starting with a clean sheet, he worked to the electrifying conclusion that the London attacks were – in all probability – staged by the secret state. Furthermore, he dismissed the danger posed by Islamic extremists as virtually non-existent. Despite rigorous carpeting by his bosses, pleas, arm-twisting and threats, Farrell refused to budge. He was convinced the story of suicide bombers responsible for London’s day of infamy was a concoction of ‘monstrous lies.’ The sole purpose of the carnage on 7th July 2005 was to terrify the population to such an extent that the United Kingdom could be moved closer to a state of regimented tyranny. As this book will explain, we have been here before. In the 1970s and ‘80s, the spectre of officially orchestrated terror stalked the European landscape. Gladio was the name of the Italian branch of the secret Guerrilla armies that NATO established to ‘stay behind’ in the event of a Russian invasion. Every NATO state, and some that were not, had such a secretive force. As the prospect of an attack from the East receded, so did fear of the Soviets. To preserve the myth of the Red Peril, these secret, or ‘sleeping,’ soldiers were released in a wave of synthetic violence against innocent European citizens. It lasted two decades, the years remembered by Italians as the anni di piombo – the years of lead. The modern-day manufactured ‘war on terror’ comes from the same stable of synthetic violence. With the communist bogey exhausted, we are told of an insidious new peril in our midst: the fearful prospect of minarets and Sharia law marching across the European landscape, destroying Christian civilization. But for fear to work in a tangible form, as was discovered in the years of lead, we must have the visible impact of terror all around us. That is where we are now.

      Richard, Cottrell (2012-05-05). Gladio, NATO’s Dagger at the Heart of Europe: The Pentagon-Nazi-Mafia Terror Axis (Kindle Locations 50-67). Progressive Press. Kindle Edition.

      • This is a great post!, many thanks David. I feel uneasy reading about ‘out of touch’ secret armies – who infiltrate local places and groups to try and divide/ break down and use Psycological warfare. But I am convinced that it happens. Look at the way our public services are run: no fear there of actually looking after the Public they’serve’ or the employees at ground level. I loath to even admit that I am intrigued by the ‘secret state police’ could have been involved in the London Bombings- although just two incidents. make me think twice.
        1. the brutal murder of Charles De Mendez on a train by ‘Police’ who were watching him? alledged Terrorist?
        2. the awareness of my liberties being erroded(using the terrorist mandate) and the blatant lies of Meglomaniac Prime Minister. The security Industry made and continue to make billions on the manufactured ‘Fear’. Starting off with not being allowed to carry water/jiuce onto a plane, but being forced to pay extortinate prices for tiny bottles of water…It always starts with the ‘little’ things.
        I never thought I would say this: I will be glad if the Scottish Government can get most of Scotland sober, by hiking up drink prices ( I doubt it) but boy what an own goal they would score- sober electorate? boy, what damage that could do! see what the Americans did with the Indians ( yes, they are Indians) they sold them booze -got them drunk- and changed their community forever!
        Well how about Drugs and it’s free avaliability…Hmmmm thinking what I’m thinking?

        Glad to see you back John.

    • how the hell do you tell the difference between paranoia and reasonable suspicion. Just reading the precis for that book I felt it was going to be a conspiracist’s day book. But just how the hell can we as ordinary people, ever hope to sort the wheat from the chaff?

      We can’t, we might as well curl up in the corner with some pleb narcotic [alcohol] and some suduko and wait ’till the clock stops ticking…….

    • These people triggered all the rioting in Greece over the past couple of years not to mention the ones in previous…

      Faceless men. Look at all the other demonstrations in Greece when their was no external “look-in” and they have been peaceful with no rioting.

      For eg

  6. I think we’ll be seeing more honest local businesses spring up in reaction to the way that we’re being sucked dry and run into the ground at the moment.
    I’ll make sure I’ll be paying them in cash too!
    The constant glossy bait and switch methods being employed via email, postbox and mobile phone just serve to reveal the shoddy level of service being offered.
    Not many people can see this until they’ve nothing left.

  7. Hello John,
    now that “normal service has been resumed”, I’d like to post a comment on Telegraph journo Con Coughlin’s latest piece where he once again acts as ventriloquist’s dummy for the intelligence services.
    I remember we discussed Coughlin before. It was when he tried to convince anyone daft enough to listen, that Iran was on the brink of commissioning nuclear weapons, remember?
    Well, Con (or ConJob as is more apt), was a proven-in-court liar whose “analysis” of Iran’s WMD consisted of unattributed blather from people in the intelligence services, the people who appreciate Coughlin’s useful idiocy.

    In yesterday’s Telegraph, the hack was told it was time to pass on the stale old warnings about the dangers of the Syrian government either using or letting others use chemical weapons. Under the heading “Does Obama have the guts to prevent a chemical nightmare?”, our Con says….””To judge by the sudden upsurge in demand for gasmasks in Israel, there are many in the region who believe that Damascus will not bother to wait for some perceived act of ‘external aggression’ before unleashing its arsenal on its neighbours”. He adds….”This is not paranoia”.
    Oh no? Well, what is it then, Con? And who exactly are these “many” that you talk about? Coughlin could garner a modicum of respect if he just prefaced his story with…”Here is a statement I have been given by UK and Israeli intelligence, designed to prepare you all for any upcoming false-flag attack which will enable UK-USA to formally do what their proxies are already doing….intervening in Syria. Because the UN has so far refused to endorse another Libya-style intervention, we really need to find a pretext to get involved. I am doing my bit by putting my name to this document I have been asked to promote.”
    Amazingly, the windbag is given more space in the same edition to write another quarter page of hokum, this one entitled “Iran’s Ayatollah calls for attacks on West as payback for Syria”. ConJob then goes on to add….”according to Western intelligence officials”. Ahhh! Western intelligence officials, eh? Well, that’s good enough for me, I suppose. As is always the case with Coughlin, that’s about as much evidence as you are ever likely to get. No names, no positions, this time, not even a mention of which nation’s officials.
    I’ll say this for Coughlin, his articles are always educational. Whenever I’ve finished reading them, I tell myself…”Kenny, that’s taught you a f****ng lesson”.
    Kennyboy

    • This was one of the articles in the DT that I referred to earlier as being written to order….the one about chemical warfare. Though to be fair so many people saw through it that I doubt it convinced anyone with more than one brain cell.
      Real unbiased journalism is a myth I think….probably why we read sites such as this.

      • Kenny & Zeus
        Hard to disagree with any of that. The game now is to demonise Assad and turn him into an inhuman monster…thus allowing inhuman things to be done to his tribe.
        The Alaw’hites will be wiped out once he falls. But hey, Hillary ain’t gonna let that little community get in the way of her MidEast Strategy 8-lane Superhighway.
        I wonder what Presidentess Clinton’s excuse will be four years from now when the Brotherhood start beheading people?
        As for Mr Coughlin, the clue is in the forename. I’m afraid he is one of several Torygraph bumboys who take the Barclays’ Bank, as Kenneth Williams might have said.

    • I saw his crap as well, Kennyboy. The readers know he is talking bollocks as there were no comments allowed on his articles.

  8. We have a local guy who does repairs, laptops and desktops etc. And I went in to his shop and he was talking to a chap who had a laptop under his arm. He was just about to leave when he remembered to ask how he could protect all his work that was on his hard disk. I stood and listened to his advice for a few minutes, then the guy left the shop. I followed his out and stopped him in the street and explained that if he took the advice he had just been given he would more than likely loose all his work, such was the rubbish the computer guy spouted. Hence, I have never been back in there since and loudly advise all and sundry to boycott the place!

  9. Golem XIV,has asserted that the German Landesbanks have off shore and off books SIVs lodged in regulation-lite Ireland,which are full of Trillions(yesT) of Euros of intruments from the sub prime era(good ole yankee know how sold them a pile of bull).Any who,if Greece goes or Ireland were to go,would these delightful instruments of mass destruction be exposed at least for a moment to the light of obviouis lying(accountancy)?Has Germany,in her wisdom and circular bank lending,accumulated monies at the ECB to really bailout the SIV lite regulated Landesbanks?I still assert that German purchase and the wilful lying and middle fingering of Wall Street lie at the heart of our austerity?
    American banking and its evil twin American insurance are not about to pay for their lies,that will be us in Europe and the UK.
    Still the American people are at the mercy of this evil and no awakening in sight.

  10. A small but succinct example of what JW mentions in paragraph 7:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100177587/tory-sleaze-is-worse-than-ever-yeo-and-deben-must-go/
    Credit to the DT for running with this story (although it is no longer on their main pages). For overseas readers J Delingpole is currently toying with the idea of standing as a UkIP candidate at a suitable parliamentary election.
    And no I don’t have any party political affiliations – I’m just part of the PBI.

  11. Just for the record, Out/OpenReach ARE as bad as that – it’s not just Sky or whoever using them as a blame-diverter.

    It’s the only bit of BT that remained a monopoly, and boy do they make people suffer for it.

    • Agreed that Openreach are crap but the ‘last mile’ problem is a real issue. How do you deregulate the wire between the exchange and your home? What it really needs is a regulator with balls but that’s unlikely. It’s a bit like a Network Rail problem waiting to happen.

      • Ban line rental charges to the customer. Make the service supplier/owner liable for their servicing and upkeep. Thus the desire to get rid of ‘the last mile’ to other suppliers. It’ll never happen however – I cannot believe that we get ‘line rental’ charges for the air on our mobile phones. All a throwback from when we had fully wired and (even) party lines.

  12. quote”I guess you have a contract all written up and ready for the guys in your life to sign – before they commit the heineous act of pleasuring you :)”
    Oh yes cup cakes, and your name has been added to the *go ahead don’t bother to fking wake me up you are a crap lover and wouldn’t to be awake to witness your numb nutted fumbling- list* :).

    “Why do you not consider that you should have to gain consent before wrapping your body around a mans penis in order to obtain pleasure from them ?”

    Oh I don’t know call it freedom of choice? call it My body is MINE and I can make ADULT decisions about who gets to do what to it?

    “and demanding the state look after your poor defenceless little self rather than taking a bit of responsibility ” > pardon? I am taking responsibility by saying NO THANKS… you missed that bit.

    Your pet hate in life is amusing, you obviously fear a woman who has her own mind and opinions- bless you dearest, I know I am intimitading you just by… just by having an opinion! wow. As for Feminists; I don’t share their view on most things, neither do I Share the boring views of fustrated old men who blame all the worlds ails on women…

    “they do more damage in society than they have the ability to comprehend :)” more than… Tony Blair,hunt,vague,bush,hussien,Hitler.lennin.stalin?…. oh the list is endless but.. you have your moment my sweet.. you will keep :)

    Monk wrote: Many a consenting woman has fallen to sleep while I’ve been ‘pleasuring’ them – did I become a rapist in their dreams or a lousy lover in my nightmare?
    Hahahahahahahahaaha err um BOTH! plus you could be arrested for using a WMD to polute the gene pool..heehee

    Just for the record: I have a lowered my expectation of men, that way, I am never dissapointed;) giggles. ANYWAY, back to the male trolls and manley Blogg stuff…
    PS, size matters and 5 inches IS NOT average… sorreeeee :)

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