How Bankrupt taxpayer became BT and then Bonkers Troll

First of all, thank you all so much for the simplicity of your Dickhead’s Guide to the WordPress commenting system. I think there were something like eleven in all, and every last one was more helpful than WP’s own ‘guide’.

I confess to finding WordPress software skitty at times. For example, on trying to publish this post in ‘quickpost’, it told me the request was invalid. It does this now and then.  But overall, I do like the system. However, I wonder if (or even when) software suppliers are going to realise that technogeeks are wired differently to the rest of the human race.

But that’s not important right now, because I have made a fascinating discovery over the last twelve hours: that over 50% of all Slog trolling since its inception has been carried out by one bloke with no fewer than thirteen aliases.

He’s been quite clever, Bankrupt Taxpayer aka MaxC aka Coco aka BT aka bollixdeconstruction aka all the rest of the IDs. He posted in different tones depending on the ID. Sometimes he posed as Mr Angry, sometimes as Mr Reasonable, sometimes even as Mr Helpful, and frequently as Mr Don’t-be-so-hard-on-BT. But the eventual supremacy of Mr Supremely Bonkers-Troll started appearing about two months ago. I asked him by email a couple of times if he was “alright” (he now claims I’ve never emailed him) but that only seems to have made things worse.

However, there were three consistently obsessive thoughts running through his comments:

1. Anti-semitism

2. Resentment of success

3. Violent hatred of all authority forms.

As he didn’t seem able to tear himself away from The Slog, he has now been barred from every entrance in perpetuity. So we can (most of us) breathe a sigh of relief.

181 thoughts on “How Bankrupt taxpayer became BT and then Bonkers Troll

  1. I guess trolling is the cyber equivalent of care in the community for mental patients.
    Anyway lets hope its sorted as it was spoiling John’s usually entertaining observations.

  2. I am new to the Slog and although I have read a lot of the content I rarely post comments. When I did venture a comment concerning one of BT’s antisemitic remarks his reply was arrogant and aggressive, it seemed out of character with most of the interesting and thought provocing comments on here. Keep up the good work John, banning BT I am sure with be much appreciated by all your followers who are not trolls.

  3. This behaviour is no surprise – further to your recent entry about internet censorship this guy was probably on somebody’s payroll. The anti semitism and hatefulness designed to sour the atmosphere. Moderates are clearly put off when they read extemist views and therefore no longer read the blog. The Americans have rooms full of people doing this 24/7 in shifts…. the target :- people who can think for themselves and string a sentence together – ie YOU JW!!… This is no tinfoil hat theory – just google ‘USA Sock Puppet’

    • Love how the information regarding Greece doing good in the EU is only up until 2010… sort of invalidates the part where the stated austerity actually hasn’t decreased living standards… of course we did good til 2010, the crisis hit mid to late 2009… the numbers he uses to state his case aren’t valid to the argument he makes today… anyone that thinks the standard of living in Greece has not gone down as a result of the crisis from mid 2009 is crazy… using these figures is fraudulent, and (yet again) fuels the propaganda fire that Greece is somehow deserving of even more Nordic “punishment” for doing well under the Euro… more of the same B.S.

  4. History repeats itself.

    If you come to the comment threads on my blog – WHICH I OWN SO I’M IN CHARGE – to correct my factual errors or expose me as a socialist, you will be censored banned. Banning folks for such things is not censorship, it’s culling. I know that’s true because I just made it up. Remember, I’m an old ad-man and I know all there is to know about wrapping up shit and selling it on as a bunch of roses. Dispute my dodgy and incomprehensible “facts” with real provable facts of your own or solid logical opinions, or disagree with my naive assessment of complex global affairs, and you will not get a hearing if I’m in one of my bloated-ego moods, which is most of the time nowadays. Expose me for not really knowing WTF I’m talking about and not having a clue about politics, geo-politics or any other politics, let alone football, and I will hit the spam button straight away. Chips cost extra.

    The Slog is meant to be a site where reasonable, civilised people can coalesce around MY opinions, agree with MY assessments of events and point up MY tissue of blatant lefty lies, notwithstanding the latent dissembling that I am fed 24/7 by people of all right-wing politicals, civil servants, implicated MSM titles, bankers, multinational headcases, right-wing zealots and anybody who believes in globalisation and the 13th Imam. Also from MY secret sources. Socialist fluffies always tell the truth. I know that too because I am a champagne socialist and among the richest 10% in Britain. Beat that.

    It is a site looking for new lefty ideas, especially Radical Realism and old prejudices (of which I have plenty), bitter resentment (that too), rude insults (those too and I don’t charge) and unfounded allegations against anybody who disagrees with my opinions. Anyone who marrs the overall concealed Progressive Lefty ‘feel’ will disappear very quickly. The spam button. Chips cost extra.

    Remember this and you will probably avoid being censored banned: SYCOPHANTS and YIP-YIP-YIP YES-MEN ARE WELCOME HERE.
    Anybody who has opinions which differ from mine better watch out. Doggy biscuits are in good supply now that coco has been put to sleep.

    Thank you.

  5. If you come to the comment threads on my blog – WHICH I OWN SO I’M IN CHARGE – to correct my factual errors or expose me as a socialist, you will be censored banned. Banning folks for such things is not censorship, it’s culling. I know that’s true because I just made it up. Remember, I’m an old ad-man and I know all there is to know about wrapping up shit and selling it on as a bunch of roses. Dispute my dodgy and incomprehensible “facts” with real provable facts of your own or solid logical opinions, or disagree with my naive assessment of complex global affairs, and you will not get a hearing if I’m in one of my bloated-ego moods, which is most of the time nowadays. Expose me for not really knowing WTF I’m talking about and not having a clue about politics, geo-politics or any other politics, let alone football, and I will hit the spam button straight away. Chips cost extra.

    The Slog is meant to be a site where reasonable, civilised people can coalesce around MY opinions, agree with MY assessments of events and point up MY tissue of blatant lefty lies, notwithstanding the latent dissembling that I am fed 24/7 by people of all right-wing politicals, civil servants, implicated MSM titles, bankers, multinational headcases, right-wing zealots and anybody who believes in globalisation and the 13th Imam. Also from MY secret sources. Socialist fluffies always tell the truth. I know that too because I am a champagne socialist and among the richest 10% in Britain. Beat that.

    It is a site looking for new lefty ideas, especially Radical Realism and old prejudices (of which I have plenty), bitter resentment (that too), rude insults (those too and I don’t charge) and unfounded allegations against anybody who disagrees with my opinions. Anyone who marrs the overall concealed Progressive Lefty ‘feel’ will disappear very quickly. The spam button. Chips cost extra.

    Remember this and you will probably avoid being censored banned: SYCOPHANTS and YIP-YIP-YIP YES-MEN ARE WELCOME HERE.
    Anybody who has opinions which differ from mine better watch out. Doggy biscuits are in good supply now that coco has been put to sleep.

    Thank you.

  6. JW,

    Please do not get too zealous with censorship as imo, ‘tunnel vision’ is often more dangerous as letting the as opposition having their say.

    Knowing the enemy makes one stronger not weaker, even if they are ‘a pain in the neck’.

    I for one enjoy your site because of its eclectic range of subjects and a vehicle to probably improve my knowledge (a very low requirement).

    • JW is not ‘getting zealous with censorship’. It is just one insane person that is swamping the blog with his ravings and needs to be stopped.

      Some automation to bar his new signons and delete his comments id needed. Failing that, a small team of trusted readers could share the job of doing it manually until he decides to waste his time elsewhwere.

  7. The silly sod seems to have burrowed in again, John…

    One thing I can’t quite understand is Bankrupt Taxpayer’s descent into risible foolishness. In past years his comments were often pertinent and worth reading. What has happened to turn him into this idiot? Must admit that my first thought was, “Are you alright mate?” But it seems to have gone past that point now. Shame.

  8. thank you all for your support for the lies and bollicks construction i posted today and every other day. a big bag of doggy biscuits is on its way to each of you

    woof woof.

    jw enterprises
    doggy biscuit dispatch dept

  9. Good Afternoon.

    There has been a lot of talk about this troll business throughout comment forums, all over the internet of late, even TV programmes made about it,Richard Bacon anyone?

    Of course the real meaning of the word Troll in the internet context, is like so many other words, being expanded to virtually a kind of censorship and a way of making the voicing of an opinion that does not follow the disgraceful narrative of the MSM, socially unacceptable.

    A more dangerous and serious side, is groups of people working in unison, multiple facebook accounts and comments to ferment unrest.When people talk of cyber warefare, they typically are talking of the more technical aspects, hacking etc.Dont underestimate the power of this other type of cyber warefare, the one that entirely consists of peoples thoughts and the ways experts in the field can manipulate this. Sounds far fetched, but it is really quite simple and we have already seen it in the so called Arab spring and even the London riots.

    In the case of the riots in hindsight, imagine what could have been done if what I described was used in a way to stop them before they started, be it spreading fear through a wide spread sowing of rumour, via experts in control of multiple accounts over popular forums.

    Food for thought I think.

    Farewell.

  10. These things always follow a pattern. Comment forums have been destroyed when they have been invaded by these types.

    This chap will have thought he had found a forum for views inline with his own, and somewhere that he could lead the discussion further into his own territory. Then, as time went on, certain bum notes were struck, things that appeared to oppose his particular brand of tribalism, and the critical personas emerge. When that doesn’t have the desired effect all that is left is the vengeful destructive persona is released in all its stalkerish madness.

    Efforts to thwart him will probably encourage him.

  11. john ————– woof woof .
    this is coco-pooch. your doggie .where are all my doggie buscuits ?

    +++++++++++++++++= I AM GETTING HUNGRY +++++++++++++++++++++

    i went to the closet this morning to get some out for a snack and it was empty . yes – empty !!! ggrrrr .what have you done with them all ? given them away ?

    if you dont buy some more doggie biscuits with choccy chips ,i will start pooping over the floor again .thats it .

    woof woof .

    coco pooch
    currently based in some champagne socialist’s french holiday villa .

  12. Ah, John you had a Fernando Pessoa as contributor and you banned him!!!
    On another tone… this is either the tower of Babel where who has the most mercenaries wins or community structures where values can be defended.

  13. Yes, I remember this character BT from the 4th form at Eton. He went on to join us in most of our Bullingdon capers. I remember him particularly well because he used to put treacle on the doorknobs of the schoolmasters studys’ and then check the exam papers while the master was cleaning himself up in the bathroom. Consequently he came out with 4 A+ levels, and went on to a promising career in the military at Sandhurst. He has ability in the range, being a crack shot in most calibres, and given that he went on to Special Operations Executive, was decorated for outstanding merit in the Field, and has had explosives training in most forms of theatre – should be handled with care – and treated with the respect one reserves for a dangerous operative.

  14. @BT: you’re great, Jesus loves you. Now to a question:

    Why do you have so many aliases if you are just a regular person and not affiliated with any other interests?

    The incessant repeat posting is probably not your best choice of tactics at this stage, it makes you appear either a) a bit mad or b) a bit desperate.

    And again, if this is your actual job or if you are doing this as an amateur to sow discontent and damage the slog’s standing:
    That’s a wonderful way to spend your time, well done to you sir. Your mother must be very proud of you.

    • And BTW I’m really hoping you’re less than 12 years old. Because if you’re an
      adult then your behaviour says that you really need to get outdoors and get some sunshine. Just a thought.

  15. There really is only one answer-let him post his nonsense, but ignore it.
    What it does, however, is provide an example of how easily the real intent of a blog can be distracted by those intent on doing so. More effort trying to stop the idiot, less effort can go to the blog itself-seems to be a fairly organised attack. Wonder if it is just a lone loon-but not so much I’ll devote time to it.

    • @mick: seconded. It seems like he’s being tuned out anyway, given the decreasing frequency of replies to his/her/it’s posts.

    • Maybe he really does have 23 identities. You know, multiple personality disorder.

      Not sure why he’d need 2 IPs for that though!

      • Most folks have a ‘Dynamic’ IP Address = It changes frequently to prevent tracking cookies following you around and making a ‘profile’ of where people visit .My IP addy is Dynamic .

      • Surely there must be someone who reads this blog who either knows how to get in to this knob’s hard drive, or knows someone who can, so you can finaly see him off.

  16. Does WordPress have a capability to provide some parallel comment thread, a trash area for undesired responses that remains visible but has been moved out of what is dictated to be the positive comment thread. That way the morons efforts are nOt completely removed/censored but the tone remains constructive/on topic. I appreciate I’m a prime candidate for this but….

  17. Mr Ward,
    I have great difficulty believing all that nonsense you’ve written about BT/Bankrupt Taxpayer. It looks seriously like an attempt at total character assassination on your part for reasons unknown, and I note you provide little or no evidence to back it up. I also note that some others have joined in this attack like a pack of mindless wild dogs spewing venom. Such is the human race nowadays.
    I lurk on this blog and have never seen BT express any anti-semitism. A recent post he made about judaism contained information that is freely available on the Internet, including Wiki and could not in any way be described as anti-semitic. Are you jewish yourself? That would explain your allegation.
    As for the e-mails you claim to have sent him as warnings (warnings about what?), why don’t you paste them complete with ALL HEADERS (deleting private e-mail addresses) so we can all verify that because BT claims that you banned him without any e-mail warnings. As for these different posting moods you claim he has, again I have never seen that in any of his posts. In my experience his only ‘crime’ has been to disagree with you occasionally and allege that you’re a closet Lefty. Is that really such a crime to trigger your venomous attack? Others have said it too. I suppose it could be seen as a crime by Lefty people who are in denial. But you know…

    Are you sure that your claimed success of this blog has not gone to your head and maybe you’re becoming ruthless and dictatorial?

    If this comment gets deleted I think we’ll all know the answer.

      • Don’t you have an ISP addy, plus perhaps a Hotmail and GMail addy too ?
        Many folks do, does come in handy when ordering stuff from the web .

        Names or nicks can be made up and used in any number provided it’s not already in use by ANO

      • If your comment was aimed at my post above, plse put your shooter back in it’s holster – I have been here with this nick for 6-7 months, NOT who you think it is ;-)

  18. Mr Ward, i fear that with this blog entry you presented the troll with an extra-large personal banquet to decently feast upon. Ignoring the troll is done in a slightly different way, if you kindly allow me saying so … and it makes me wonder why you wrote a piece about it, whilst you, as i suppose, knew very well that this would cause the exact opposite effect of what usually one would wish, that is, the de-visualization of the troll … or did you really had no clue that this piece about him would strentghen his “influence”, or whatever one might call that, here? No offense meant, just wondering …

  19. Get him off as it distracts. Dont let him keep posting. We want to read reasoned comments. Now we know there is pollution around so it helps spot it, but do try and keep him away.

    Probably richard bacons little slim ball troll. if you saw his documentary you could see what a horrible little loser this troll was – no girlfriends, small, unemployed. So he’s found trolling to take his frustrations out. Sad and pathetic.

  20. Anyone with even the most basic IT knowledge would know that you can’t ban a person from a blog. You might have banned his source IP, but a proxy will soon fix that.

    • True, but if IIRC, on WordPress you can only block the email addy although I may be wrong but that was the case in earlier versions .

  21. John, I totally agree that to have such a dickhead of a person (or persons / organisations with vested interests) trying to discredit your mostly superb and informative blog which often blows away the shite spouted by the MSM is quite an irritation. Easy to see through, but an irritation, bit like being subjected to those tedious adverts on commercial TV, cannot get away from them so just put mind on mute. However, with technology, IP tracking etc, is it possible to get in a position to say “Look here sunshine, I know where you live – what would your Mummy say if I told her what you have been up to??” Just a thought…

  22. BT dug the grave of his own credibility on several occasions by committing the one cardinal sin that can’t be overlooked on a blog like this… he was wrong about what he said, and very aggressive about his ignorance… never responding to anyone with any kind of proof of the validity of his statements, choosing instead to always change the subject, usually into some form of personal attack against the person that questioned the authority of his drivel. In the end the tactic was so formulaic that despite his many alias’s he was soon easily exposed by doing the same stupid thing over, and over. In the end no one could take someone so patently WRONG in his casual racism, and “lefty” gibberish seriously. The fact that his arguments always ended up blaming Jewish control of the media, or Greek laziness, etc. betrayed everyone of his lame identities and showed his racism, stupidity, and uncontrollable rudeness. I for one am glad that he has been found out as either the paid professional blogger (they do exist) or complete lunatic that he acts… now, even if he posts, people can understand what I learned over several of his hate filled rants… just like a pimple on someones ass… he just doesn’t matter.

    • Short version is: He has an opinion which is different from you, he also has a different way of dealing with forum chat- nut shell- HE is different and you do not like his attitude. O.K move along nothing to see here…

      • Aside from his armchair racism towards Jews and Greeks I never had a problem with his opinions (not all of which I disagreed with). The point I was making above was… if you are going to talk some silly stuff, make sure it is correct and you can prove it. He never spoke of things as being his opinion… he continously presented his opinions as facts and when I would call him on it and ask him to provide proof or, provide proof to disprove his statements he would immediately change the conversation away from it’s subject (when he could not prove or disprove the subject) and usually turn it into a personal, usually racist, attack. That is the problem I have with ANYONE here, not just BT… have all the opinions you want but if you make statements that are patently wrong, and sometimes offensive to people… don’t be surprised when someone challenges them… and for crying out loud don’t go on a raving ranting attack on people because your fragile ego gets bruised… if he could carry on a civil, fact based dialogue with people without turning it into a hate fest of endless antagonistic posts then he would still be on this site, no matter what his opinions. He was banned because he did not provide credible information, and attacked anyone that pointed it out… and he is racist (IMHO).

  23. Just how out of control is BT’s unhinged mind? I assume he is also Gemz’ troll, I’m now wondering if he is Gemz too! Since he said he had 500 identities he could no doubt keep up his deranged posting for as long as it takes the men in white coats to put him in a straight jacket. The suggestion of appointing a team of deleters constantly monitoring comments is a good one. Another possibility would be to vet all comments before they actually get posted but that would slow down the development of discussion.

    • Man… that’s crazy!!! I didn’t even think of it… Gemz and Gemz’s troll??? it makes crazy person sense… I guess?

    • @Phil Espin
      I tend to agree with your opinion on this, as some days, between the two of them, they totally monopolised the comment threads. It’s a great pity really, as some of their views (which in the early days, could be quite reasonable and rational) contributed positively to the blog
      The rot started when ‘the Real Gemz’ appeared, whose comments led to a concerted effort to undermine John by accusing him, ironically enough, of encouraging trolls!
      Quite clever really when you think of it, and what a lot of time and energy was, and still is, being devoted to his quest.
      I hope he’s being well paid for his efforts but ultimately he allowed his ego to reveal what an a***hole he is.

    • @ Ioannis. Firstly the Troll has not been banned, they are still trolling, and doing a good job of messing with your head. You and others, including myself, can ask people to provide evidence for whatever, but fact of life is, they are NOT obliged to explain themselves to you or anyone else. So what if the troll rants and raves and is a racist what difference to your wage packet does it make? It is only words on a screen for goodness sake. Now why don’t we just read the interesting bits and iggy the nonsense. Other wise the Troll will have claimed a trophy, in so far as having, numerous threads disrupted to ‘respond’ to it… * waits for penny to drop!*

      grrrrrrrrrrr I have to keep putting in my email and name after every post tsk!

  24. PE
    I used to frequent the BBC blogs that were for a while very good and and allowed me to help form opinions sometimes based on the postings from many diverse people. I do not know if it was down to Trolls mainly, however BBC blogs have now been “dumbed down”. You cannot leave a comment without it being vetted by moderators, limitation of 400 characters also I believe 10 minutes before being able to re-post. Got rid of a lot of the trash, but to read a BBC blog now is just terrible…

  25. I never understood trolling. It’s a little like turning up at a party, insulting the guests then puking on the sofa. In – I guess – the hope that you’ll look clever or get attention for being special. Rather than just being mildly annoying and pitied.

    But what can you do? Trolls are to the web as pigeons are to cities. there’s not much you can do to stop either.

    Although…. John? Can you set up a script on the page so that we can choose to blanket hide comments from posters at our end rather than yours? Should be simple enough to do and I’m happy to help if I can. Then we can just push a mute button next to a commenter and never see comments from that username again. You wouldn’t have to moderate so heavily and we could efficiently ignore anyone we wanted to.

    As an aside, I bloody love the standard of discussion and constructive disagreement on this place. It’s one of those rare places where you want to take as much time reading the comments as the articles. Its the first site I check in the mornings. It helps me make sense of the newspapers which I tackle next.

    thanks again to all the folks responsible for the considered and awesome commenting. It’s a great community that does make my day richer.

  26. I’ve been a daily reader of this site for a while now and have always found it interesting and informative, I’ve never posted before as I’ve used the site to recieve infomation (and I’m not sufficiently informed). The blogs might be evidenced based but there is (rightly) a lot of opinion on top.
    It’s Johns site so he can do what he like with it, however IMHO censoring people (yes it is censoring) for having the ‘wrong’ POV is very dangerous for a couple of reasons:
    1. ‘Thin end of the wedge’ – Once you have done it once it’s SO much easier to do it again
    2. ‘Kill one terrorise 1000′ – Everyone else gets really careful not to go ‘off message’ (I considered whether it was wise to post this for just this reason)
    You may end up with a room full of yes men telling JW how clever he is. If you are happy with that then fine but this site is so much more – It’s difficult to berate the MSM for peddling a particular message if you just present a different brand of ‘truth’.
    BT may be a pain but the cure might turn out worse than the disease.

      • LMAO
        Read the post – I didn’t (not once) defend BT. The only time I referred to him was to call him ‘a pain’. All I did was make the general case against censorship.
        You are starting to sound like McCarthy ‘anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a communist’

        thanks for making my point about yes men though ;-)

  27. So I can successfully reply to posts critical or indifferent to BT… but others that are defending him or doubting the validity of JW’S claims I cannot…. KevinR, Shafted, et al… IMHO… you are BT.

  28. So I can successfully reply to posts critical or indifferent to BT… but others that are defending him or doubting the validity of JW’S claims I cannot…. KevinR, Shafted, et al… IMHO… you are BT./////

  29. There is a person that post regularly on this blog, when I see that persons name I use the little wheel on my mouse and slide right by that annoying person.

    JW please do not block a comment. We are all big people here and we can decide for ourselves what comment we care to read. You can see the result of your current policy by reading this thread. Get back to writing it’s a better avenue for your talents.

    • I agree with this comment. Although Troll’s can be annoying it is only the easily annoyed they affect! That doesn’t include me. Censorship, unless peoples lives are at stake, is never a good thing. And as your own testiment to being snubbed by many John is: it really isn’t a good thing! Trolls can be ignored. A few people on here have told me in posts they would not read my posts due to honest comments made- they did not like- well ll ll ll look who is still posting regardless! I must say I am rather shocked that BT has been ‘outed’ as a troll is just seems out of charachter to his usual posts. I Haven’t read any anti semetic posts or been abused by him even though on occasion I have disagreed with him on ceratin issues, he always seems OK. I will keep an open mind about who is trolling- as it is easy to steal ID’s and I prefer to pay attention to interesting threads and posts of which there are a great many on this site.

      John if your site provider allows you to see IP adresses you can ‘ping’ and track/ trace the number to where the person is i.e. country at least and what service provider they are with.

  30. I always scanned past anything that bankrupt taxpayer troll said as I spotted it was a bullshitter months ago.
    It didn’t have time to watch any videos ( such as the Edward Griffin one’s) yet tried to make out it had. And talked rubbish about what they were saying.

  31. @Shafted, actually BT… 500 identities… all here to down play the idea that you are on here under multiple names, or defend BT… I don’t follow the names… just the horse shit smell that strings all your feeble personalities together. If I am wrong… you won’t bother to respond… with any of your fake id’s

  32. Ioannis
    You are spamming the board with multi posts of the same thing – in addition your logic is of poor quality, no evidence of anything anywhere yet you are turning on other members (5 or 6 or more) accusing them with rubbish but you don’t answer the questions put to you – drunken greek shooting first ask the questions when you’re sober lol

  33. Im bill40 and bill40 I remain. Who the hell can be arsed to create 13 bloody profiles? I don’t agree with everything in this blog but I love it.

    My only radical act of hatred is towards bankers and trying to hasten the day they are held accountable for their crimes.

  34. This place seems to have more trolls and spoofers then Guido Fawke’s place this afternoon. Civil war has broken out at the slog with everyone accused of being BT or his female alter ego Gemz.

    Its all madness.

    • It isn’t me I swear! No,! it really isn’t.. could it be you!?! lol let’s keep it real people who cares who it is. …and name calling to a troll is confirmation that you have lost the thread and gained a captured ‘Troll’ audience…

  35. If you come to the comment threads on my blog – WHICH I OWN SO I’M IN CHARGE – to correct my factual errors or expose me as a socialist, you will be censored banned. Banning folks for such things is not censorship, it’s culling. I know that’s true because I just made it up. Remember, I’m an old ad-man and I know all there is to know about wrapping up shit and selling it on as a bunch of roses. Dispute my dodgy and incomprehensible “facts” with real provable facts of your own or solid logical opinions, or disagree with my naive assessment of complex global affairs, and you will not get a hearing if I’m in one of my bloated-ego moods, which is most of the time nowadays. Expose me for not really knowing WTF I’m talking about and not having a clue about politics, geo-politics or any other politics, let alone football, and I will hit the spam button straight away. Chips cost extra.

    The Slog is meant to be a site where reasonable, civilised people can coalesce around MY opinions, agree with MY assessments of events and point up MY tissue of blatant lefty lies, notwithstanding the latent dissembling that I am fed 24/7 by people of all right-wing politicals, civil servants, implicated MSM titles, bankers, multinational headcases, right-wing zealots and anybody who believes in globalisation and the 13th Imam. Also from MY secret sources. Socialist fluffies always tell the truth. I know that too because I am a champagne socialist and among the richest 10% in Britain. Beat that.

    It is a site looking for new lefty ideas, especially Radical Realism and old prejudices (of which I have plenty), bitter resentment (that too), rude insults (those too and I don’t charge) and unfounded allegations against anybody who disagrees with my opinions. Anyone who marrs the overall concealed Progressive Lefty ‘feel’ will disappear very quickly. The spam button. Chips cost extra.

    Remember this and you will probably avoid being censored banned: SYCOPHANTS and YIP-YIP-YIP YES-MEN ARE WELCOME HERE.
    Anybody who has opinions which differ from mine better watch out. Doggy biscuits are in good supply now that coco has been put to sleep.

    Thank you.

  36. If you come to the comment threads on my blog – WHICH I OWN SO I’M IN CHARGE – to correct my factual errors or expose me as a socialist, you will be censored banned. Banning folks for such things is not censorship, it’s culling. I know that’s true because I just made it up. Remember, I’m an old ad-man and I know all there is to know about wrapping up shit and selling it on as a bunch of roses. Dispute my dodgy and incomprehensible “facts” with real provable facts of your own or solid logical opinions, or disagree with my naive assessment of complex global affairs, and you will not get a hearing if I’m in one of my bloated-ego moods, which is most of the time nowadays. Expose me for not really knowing WTF I’m talking about and not having a clue about politics, geo-politics or any other politics, let alone football, and I will hit the spam button straight away. Chips cost extra.

    The Slog is meant to be a site where reasonable, civilised people can coalesce around MY opinions, agree with MY assessments of events and point up MY tissue of blatant lefty lies, notwithstanding the latent dissembling that I am fed 24/7 by people of all right-wing politicals, civil servants, implicated MSM titles, bankers, multinational headcases, right-wing zealots and anybody who believes in globalisation and the 13th Imam. Also from MY secret sources. Socialist fluffies always tell the truth. I know that too because I am a champagne socialist and among the richest 10% in Britain. Beat that.

    It is a site looking for new lefty ideas, especially Radical Realism and old prejudices (of which I have plenty), bitter resentment (that too), rude insults (those too and I don’t charge) and unfounded allegations against anybody who disagrees with my opinions. Anyone who marrs the overall concealed Progressive Lefty ‘feel’ will disappear very quickly. The spam button. Chips cost extra.
    .
    Remember this and you will probably avoid being censored banned: SYCOPHANTS and YIP-YIP-YIP YES-MEN ARE WELCOME HERE.
    Anybody who has opinions which differ from mine better watch out. Doggy biscuits are in good supply now that coco has been put to sleep.
    .
    Thank you.

  37. Soemting is just happening here i watched elsewhere before.

    One could, maybe, in a rolicking moment, establish a fine silly little theory about it, if it would’nt be that it’s far too easy to figure out the whole otiose rumbling that’s going on here.

  38. I’ve been reading this blog on and off for many years. I don’t believe he was/is a troll. If he was a pro-troll, he could easily have changed his IP address per username etc…I don’t recall any anti-semitic comments from BT either?? BT was clearly educated, it is easy to disguise IP Address info et al so this doesn’t make any sense whatsoever (unless you are technically illiterate).

  39. The reason that comments are out of order in this ludicrous thread is that the ego-tripping blog owner has been censoring (deleting) comment posts and WordPress has gone dizzy titsup. Add to that the old Greek goat Ioannis has had a bad sewage leak and run out of lavatory paper. What a f&cking mess.

  40. For what it’s worth, I am MaxC and I am not an alias for BT. A scan through my postings will demonstrate support for JW and I have never slagged anyone off here or anywhere else.

    • You aren’t Max, but BT cloned your name via a different IP sender. Hence u are still able to post.
      For what it’s worth (-56) BT is now up to four IP addresses. I’m leaving his last rant up because there’s a long-overdue promise in it:’my decision never to post on your blog again’.
      I’m not holdingmy breath.
      Everyone else, try to think of yourselves as Danides going to the the funny folks in Bedlam.
      JW

  41. Folks… I don’t know what is happening on this page but that is not me going on over and over… I can only hope that I haven’t been hacked as I am having trouble posting at all… and everything is out of order and not posting… I keep getting messages that say I am posting too much, or that I already posted the same thing when I did not… I don’t know what is happening but I know someone is posting under my name… looks like BT or whoever wins after all

  42. IF, BT is reading then, Hello BT, hope you’re enjoying SA. I always enjoyed BT’s blog replies.
    Sometimes I agree with,sometimes I don’t agree with JW and the other sloggers, but mostly I learn some very interesting things about the world and peoples’ lives.
    I often have to do due diligence to check,as best I can,stories or facts, but that is something we should all do.
    I don’t believe in trolling.
    I do believe, that a lot of people are suffering in this world and a massive amount of people are in for a shock when the system starts to crumble before them.
    In the end we will need our family, friends, neighbours and community to live through the decades to come. Divide and rule(them) or, together we stand(us).
    Perhaps, there could be a side forum that, if sloggers want, can be move to, in order to continue any discussion or general discourse.

  43. This type of thing happens on many financial BB’s. The guy’s are paid to either knock or praise a company in the vain hope the share price will be affected. It is an industry for the banksters and politicos and fits nicely with their take on morals. Thus the need for the Slog in ever increasing amounts.

  44. Trolls were handled by the bloggers themselves in an interesting and often humorous way as they attacked doggedly last year at TAE. Here’s an example:

    http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/august-25-2011-sex-lies-and-bank-stocks.html

    There’s another post on that website somewhere, in which the bloggers managed to get a Troll to admit how much he was being paid per entry to trash the site. Can’t find it right now.

    But the blogspot authors had to also
    a) enlist the help of trusted readers to review all comments submitted
    b) suppress all commenting from time to time when no-one was on duty
    c) move to a more secure platform ie. from WordPress to Joomla!

  45. @Ioannis
    Glad 2 hear ur in safe hands with a comp. guru friend.
    Your personality is completely different to those posts – they certainly weren’t from you.
    I don’t believe the culprit was trying to shut you up. I think he/she/they are trying to shut the whole blog up.
    If you havn’t seen it, this is interesting from the Brass Neck comments…

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/the-15-rules-of-internet-disinformation.html

    Good luck with the repair!

  46. His vile comments were becoming a serious disincentive to following you.
    What’s to stop him, though, from signing on again from a different computer, sounding reasonable for a while before going all nordic-giant?
    I ask this not in hope but in order to improve my limited understanding of how the blogosphere works. Would be grateful for informed comments from JW or other threaders.

  47. There is nothing to stop him from commenting apart from constant monitoring of the comments, I doubt John has the time or inclination to do that, as for your feeling of not following the blog surely that is the point of the “troll”, redirect the flow of the conversation to distract from the posts or stop people from coming here all together, once identified you can counter their intent either by destroying their argument or ingnoring them all together. I have no experience of wordpress but surely there must be a way of stopping duplicate posts, at least then they would have to at least put some work in.

  48. Mr Ward has not responded to my reasonable comments further up so I assume I was right and his article was nothing more than an unfounded and malicious character assassination of someone who posts here, or used to post here, for reasons unknown. Mr Ward provides no evidence whatsoever to back up his wild allegations about BT. His limp claim about IP addresses is nonsense for tech reasons which are way above his head. And he already knows that forgeries appear on this blog (@Gemz) which HE allows, so why does he not consider that someone is forging BT? or IP addresses or using a VPN or TOR?

    No, I’m sorry but Mr Ward’s allegations in this article simply do not stand up to even the smallest scrutiny. It’s just a load of bollocks.

    I am sure this whole affair will be the turning point for this blog. It has attracted a lot of venomous jackals and will slowly degenerate into oblivion. Good luck at holding it together, Mr Ward.

  49. Nice try BT… you always refer to “Mr. Ward” in that manner when your thinly veiled contempt betrays you. If this was poker… you’d be broke.

  50. This should be a direct reply to many names of BT

    Anyway, the chance of several distinct people commenting on the same website with the same IP are virtualy nil.
    Someone could conceivably be forging BTs IP, but why?

  51. Kevin

    I am afraid that my email address was blocked by the esteemed MR Ward. This was for reasons that most English people do not think like those on the mainland of Europe, and do not wish to be reminded of that fact.

    My wishes were to put a point of view which whilst possibly distasteful to British people, would concur broadly with those in the Northern part of the Eurozone. That it is distasteful to British people only shows how far Britain now needs to move politically if it is to have any real influence with its nearest neighbours.

  52. He probably doesn’t know, nor do I and it seems you too – JW should have the answer as he is the man with the controls – the question is, why doesn’t he stop it whover it is ;-)

  53. @KevinR (BT) another give is that somehow you make it impossible to reply directly to your posts… forcing any comments to your statements to be posted separately and below… people can go back over the last few days of rants from you and see that replys are posted separately even though they are meant to be posted as direct reply’s… BT… your just not clever enough to keep this up without being figured out.

  54. I can reply to any posts above, so it must be your end – the word REPLY is under ALL of the main posts above .

    Again, put your shooter away

  55. @Ioannis
    I hope you get this as a direct reply.
    I really enjoy your comments, but on this occasion, you’re wrong old chap. Shaftedagain is definitely not BT. Had you been on this blog as long as some you would be aware of this, as you would have observed the disagreements between the two.
    I feel sure a quick apology will resolve the issue. There’s no point in having genuine bloggers at each other’s throats. That’s exactly the result BT is aiming for. Don’t give him the satisfaction.:-)

  56. @shafted… you would know why BT… now my posts don’t even get put into the order they are supposed to… So I can successfully reply to posts critical or indifferent to BT… but others that are defending him or doubting the validity of JW’S claims I cannot…. KevinR, Shafted, et al… IMHO… you are BT./////

  57. Reply button under your post – add more water to your Ouzo and put your shooter away – will this post be under yours or out of sequence ?

  58. This is replying to Jacqui.
    Who were you telling to mind their own business?
    These replies have gone all out of sequence.

  59. @Jacqui (Gemz/BT) you’ve used that swatting flies before… try to come up with new material as you switch between your 500 identities… and when it comes to swatting flies… please keep your hygiene problems personal.

  60. @Shafted, Trt, Filthy, KevinR … Nope… you just created another account to validate your other fake account… still you BT… lol.

  61. @Ioannis
    You tested it with gary above, is he an imposter too ?
    Like wise you tested it with Liz, another imposter ?
    filthy mcnasty tested it too and points out his replies are out of sequence
    Jaqui replied to a post, its out of sequence too lol

  62. @Shafted, actually BT… 500 identities… all here to down play the idea that you are on here under multiple names, or defend BT… I don’t follow the names… just the horse shit smell that strings all your feeble personalities together. If I am wrong… you won’t bother to respond… with any of your fake id’s

  63. @Ioannis
    Nice try but you forgot to mention that a REPLY under your post end up out of sequence too, therefore on your theory, you must be somebody else in disguise – who are you really ??????? – as said, more water in your Ouzo and take a nap

  64. @Ioannis
    Liz O’Donnell replied 2 u at 4.18 but for some reason it’s posted up the page around the 3.42 timeslot.

  65. Thanks for proving me right… ” If I am wrong… you won’t bother to respond… with any of your fake id’s “… Your “ouzo” cracks and “swatting flies” cracks are well documented throughout your different 500 identities… you are BT, as evidenced by the fact that you were too stupid to take my bait and your mania demanded you reply to my last statement and prove me right… as you have repeatedly done… you can’t help yourself you will keep responding (in all your BS personailites) because you are crazy, and out of control… If I am wrong than there should really be no reason for anyone BUT you… to continue responding in this thread…

  66. Thanks for proving me right… ” If I am wrong… you won’t bother to respond… with any of your fake id’s “… Your “ouzo” cracks and “swatting flies” cracks are well documented throughout your different 500 identities… you are BT, as evidenced by the fact that you were too stupid to take my bait and your mania demanded you reply to my last statement and prove me right… as you have repeatedly done… you can’t help yourself you will keep responding (in all your BS personailites) because you are crazy, and out of control… If I am wrong than there should really be no reason for anyone BUT you… to continue responding in this thread… /////

  67. Thanks for proving me right… ” If I am wrong… you won’t bother to respond… with any of your fake id’s “… Your “ouzo” cracks and “swatting flies” cracks are well documented throughout your different 500 identities… you are BT, as evidenced by the fact that you were too stupid to take my bait and your mania demanded you reply to my last statement and prove me right… as you have repeatedly done… you can’t help yourself you will keep responding (in all your BS personailites) because you are crazy, and out of control… If I am wrong than there should really be no reason for anyone BUT you… to continue responding in this thread… mmmmm

  68. Was this aimed at me? I was waiting for the reply thing to fix itself so the reply would be slotted into the right point.
    Look mate I’m really not who you think I am (I know I would say that wouldn’t I!).
    Anyway, do you disagree with any of the original post? It doesn’t even say BT should not be banned (in fact it does say that it’s up to John). All it’s states is censorship is a slippery slope that can stifle debate. I didn’t think that was very contentious.

  69. @Ioannis
    Please get a grip man, some of your assumptions are simply wrong. Read my previous post to you as to whys and wherefores.

  70. Ioannis -
    Thanks for giving us all a crystal clear demonstration of your complete and utter madness. You’re endless inane comments in this L00ny thread by John Ward resemble a sewage pipe that’s overflowing with shit and bile. And thanks for taking the focus away from the utter lies, bollocks and hateful bile posted by our very own Drama Queen, John Ward himself. I’m sure you both feel very proud of yourselves

  71. Have u seen the new posts further up the page?
    Imho it’s the same old malicious spoofer out 2 destroy the thread.

  72. @shaftedagain
    I have serious concerns about what’s happening on this blog today and think that BT, alongside his many aliases must be laughing his socks off.
    I don’t believe he’s deranged but extremely determined, which makes him even more dangerous. This is evident when you observe the acrimony the contrasting opinions have caused today alone.

  73. Possibly Liz but our Greek slogger has stolen the limelight today by accusing 7-8-9 (?) of us as being someone else – poor chap, heat and Ouzo don’t mix .
    I don’t know BT and therefore cannot speak for him – I think he is putting his own msg across

  74. Liz. You are right.
    Unless this stupidity stops, the blog will become less and less attractive because the comments are (or were) a crucial part of what John is trying to get across. The sort of bile that is evident in this post has been completely absent at the Slog so far.
    Perhaps John should ban ALL comments until things cool down a bit and the trolls go elsewhere..

  75. I don’t know why he/she bothers, and why anyone bothers to reply. I just skip past the rants. Like ignoring the pub bore, freedom of speech has a price for us all. Unfortunately, in every society, there has to be a complete range of opinions, from the village idiot to the genius. That’s why we think ourselves cultured, I s’pose.

    Maybe he might want to start his own blog.

  76. Me too SGP15 and I think it’s sad that you feel that you have to justify yourself. I hope that some of today’ posts are not indicative of future exchanges.
    Hopefully, when Ioannis awakens from his siesta, he will be gracious enough to apologise.

  77. @FMcN
    That makes sense as Ioannis is usually a very reasonable man, with incisive and considered comments. That is why I felt the need to appeal to him. A puzzle indeed??? Maybe time will tell. Meantime Paranoia and Schizophrenia reign.

  78. @LizO’D
    Indeed. And like a hall of mirrors, perhaps?
    It won’t stop me visiting, though.
    I like to think people reveal themselves even through the printed word. As you say, maybe time will tell.

  79. Yeah, guy’s got a small dick and it shows…Leave the poor demented guy alone in his dark cupboard. An onanist I fear.

  80. Perhaps, but if, as I suspect, he starts doing spoof posts using any of our names – there could be chaos.
    He/she might even use my id to write worse rubbish than I do!

  81. @ Mark
    I am not BT.
    What have I ever posted that puts me in his category?
    I was merely observing what I think he’s doing.
    I believe he’s out to destroy this blog.
    I’m not.

  82. Folks… I don’t know what is happening on this page but that is not me going on over and over… I can only hope that I haven’t been hacked as I am having trouble posting at all… and everything is out of order and not posting… I keep getting messages that say I am posting too much, or that I already posted the same thing when I did not… I don’t know what is happening but I know someone is posting under my name… looks like BT or whoever wins after all… and for the record I don’t like ouzo :)

  83. can someone tell me why one would keep losing his wifi signal and when I hit “repair” it fixes temporarily and then says it can’t clear the DNS server and I should call my admin? Am I hacked or something?

  84. @Ioannis
    It would appear to be a distinct possibility Ioannis. I don’t possess the technical ability to offer a resolution. There’s bound to be a slogger who can advise on the best method to rid the site of the utter chaos that took place on all of JWs postings today. As you will no doubt have read (due to the false threads) you came in for a bit of stick.
    Let’s hope we can resume some form of normality, as there is much more important and interesting subject matter to be discussed than mad trolls.

  85. @Ioannis
    It must be infuriating to find someone posting under your name. I hope you don’t let it get you down.
    If your comp. has been interfered with you could wipe your hard drive using something like dBan from sourceforge.net and re-install your operating system. Or get a live linux CD and use the wipe facility on that.
    My habit when surfing is to use a live CD such as Knoppix so nothing undesirable gets written to the hard drive. The drawback is you can’t save any information to it.
    For a permanent operating system I prefer any Linux to the big commercial ones.
    There is also a free software from emsisoft which is good at clearing out malware.
    Hope that’s been some help.

  86. Troll #35

    can you get back in your cage now? It s my tern now. I wont to make gerMans look stoopid toooo. Its jellussey reeley but coz weees’ klevver we does goood posttes wot is interrrestin.

    Yer can take those hig h heeeles off now, they kill yore webbbed feeeet.

  87. My computer is acting REALLY strange all of a sudden it is super, super slow… and I am having trouble staying online, posting, I am afraid to open my email, eBay, do banking, etc. so… something is up. I talked to a friend who is my computer guru and he invited me over for coffee and a look at my machine. I will be leaving it with him so I may not be posting for a couple of days. Thanks for suggesting the drive wipe… it’s what my friend said on the phone too. Anyway, if whoever did this thinks it’s going to slow me down, or shut me up they are very mistaken… I hope folks understand those posts aren’t mine, I hope this is not going to happen each time!! my post on this subject was at 1:28.

  88. @Ioannis
    Glad 2 hear ur in safe hands with a comp. guru friend.
    Your personality is completely different to those posts – they certainly weren’t from you.
    I don’t believe the culprit was trying to shut you up. I think he/she/they are trying to shut the whole blog up.
    If you havn’t seen it, this is interesting from the Brass Neck comments…

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/the-15-rules-of-internet-disinformation.html

    Good luck with the repair!

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